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MLB July trade deadline thread
#1
Red Sawx trade one of the best pitching prospects in baseball for a guy having a great year, but who has never thrown more than 140 IP in a season (that I can tell).
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#2
(07-14-2016, 11:18 PM)hawesg Wrote: Red Sawx trade one of the best pitching prospects in baseball for a guy having a great year, but who has never thrown more than 140 IP in a season (that I can tell).

Yeah. I hope he gets a few starts before the deadline and gets shelled. Boston would be in full panic mode then.
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(07-14-2016, 11:18 PM)hawesg Wrote: Red Sawx trade one of the best pitching prospects in baseball for a guy having a great year, but who has never thrown more than 140 IP in a season (that I can tell).

And that's a huge example of why it's absurd when people say pitching isn't as valuable these days
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(07-15-2016, 09:00 AM)zcarter85 Wrote: And that's a huge example of why it's absurd when people say pitching isn't as valuable these days

I don't know that there are really that many folks who would state that pitching is less valuable to a team today than it was, say, a decade ago.  But I'm a folk that will tell you that to think one can merely saunter up to the bar and order a hitter while paying with pitching, proven or prospect, and walk away with a smile is somewhat foolhardy.

Balanced approach.
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#5
https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/status/753938655182483456

https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/status/753939626788872196
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#6
Also...

https://twitter.com/a5ehren/status/753934597495324673
https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/status/753937279215861760
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#7
Lucroy will cost a fortune, but I would like to have him.
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#8
(07-15-2016, 09:00 AM)zcarter85 Wrote: And that's a huge example of why it's absurd when people say pitching isn't as valuable these days

No.  It's huge example of why MINOR LEAGUE pitching isn't valuable.  Espinoza fetched Drew Pomeranz.  That means Sean Newcombe might get you Eduardo Nunez - a mandatory All Star having a solid season.
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(07-15-2016, 11:18 AM)hawesg Wrote: No.  It's huge example of why MINOR LEAGUE pitching isn't valuable.  Espinoza fetched Drew Pomeranz.  That means Sean Newcombe might get you Eduardo Nunez - a mandatory All Star having a solid season.

Please show me all the major league pitching to be had....
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(07-15-2016, 11:52 AM)zcarter85 Wrote: Please show me all the major league pitching to be had....

I don't understand how that's a rebuttal.  You are saying we can fix the worst offense in MLB by....Something.  Buying hitters.  That would have to be through trade, since there are no hitters for sale this winter on the open market.

Because there are no SP available either this winter, SP on the trade market is really valuable.  But that's ESTABLISHED MLB PITCHING.  Those are the pitchers who have proved they are more than a radar gun reading and a "projectible body type."

I agree SP is valuable on the trading market right now, which is why I think we sold low and poorly on Chacin and Norris.  They weren't that good (Norris has continued his good work so far.) but they were available at a time when MLB SP really isn't.

What the Pomeranz trade showed me was that one of the best SP prospects in baseball was worth a guy who has bounced back and forth between the BP and rotation, but was having a good year.  

Put another way: the Red Sox are desperate (mainly because Buchholz shit the bed) but they aren't desperate to deal for Lucas Sims or Tyrell Jenkins.
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