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BravePiKapp
03-04-2008, 02:47 PM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/who-should-sign-barry-bonds/

BGarrett7
03-04-2008, 02:55 PM
The difference wouldn't be quite as dramatic for the other teams, but it suggests that Bonds may be a three-win addition for a number of clubs.

You know, if he's not in the slam and all...

McCarroll21
03-04-2008, 03:47 PM
There are a lot of places that think Bonds would be a good fit in Atlanta, and quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing about them. What would we do, only play him on the road? He'd get booed out of the state if he were wearing a Braves uniform in Atlanta.

mattybz28
03-04-2008, 04:04 PM
The difference wouldn't be quite as dramatic for the other teams, but it suggests that Bonds may be a three-win addition for a number of clubs.

You know, if he's not in the slam and all...
werd.

Hard to hit em while in the pokey.

BraveMan
03-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Why don't we just tear down number 44 from the Ted's walls and let Bonds wear that then.

vnodnarb
03-04-2008, 04:24 PM
There are a lot of places that think Bonds would be a good fit in Atlanta, and quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing about them. What would we do, only play him on the road? He'd get booed out of the state if he were wearing a Braves uniform in Atlanta.

Funny, yet pretty obvious, I don't realize how they could overlook this.

hotcorner33
03-04-2008, 04:28 PM
No way we should ever disrespect Henry Aaron in that manner. If the Braves were to sign him (extremely unlikely(, this would anger me to the point that I might not follow my team, the Atlanta Braves, for Pete's Sake, until he was not on the team anymore.

Nasadega
03-04-2008, 04:35 PM
As long as Hank is part of the Braves management, there are no chances he ever approaches Turner Field.

tigerfan
03-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Wont happen and wouldnt want it to, but IMO Bonds using roids is just as wrong as Javy Lopez. Cant hate bonds for being a great baseball player, but you can hate him for being a prick, using steroids, or whatever else. Therefore I dont see how this would somehow tarnish hank's legacy.

McCarroll21
03-04-2008, 04:46 PM
Not justifying either one, because you're correct, but like Clemens is getting more heat than Jason Grimsley, Bonds will get more heat than anyone other position player simply because of their status.

Also, Lopez didn't break Hank's record.

Not saying that either one had a better right to use it, they're all wrong for it, but Bonds gets more heat simply because of who he is.

BGarrett7
03-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Well, another thing to consider his not just the steroid use itself, but the reaction when called out on it. There have been a number of above-average players either mentioned in the Grimsley Affidavit or the Mitchell Report who have admitted to their previous usage and like everyone else, moved on. I mean, sure, Pettitte and Giambi aren't Clemens or Bonds, but both are marquee players in the largest market. Both have apologized for what they did, and now they are just another name. If Clemens or Bonds either had took that type of approach they wouldn't be receiving the type of backlash they have. Neither would be facing possible jail time and perhaps the media would actually let things die down.

JCStone57
03-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah this is beyond stupid if the Braves had an inkling of thought in doing this. The Brave franchise who have maintained the stance of sportsmanship and class for the past 20+ years bringing in the antithesis of that is utterly moronic.

BravePiKapp
03-04-2008, 05:38 PM
There are a bevy of all-time greats who still haven't found a home for 2008, but one of them stands far above the rest: Barry Bonds (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/stats/players/index.php?playerId=1109). I fully understand why a team would want to stay as far away from the Barry circus as possible, but this is a guy coming off a season with an OPS over 1.000. A couple of weeks ago, John Beamer took a look at who might be interested for 2008 (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/take-a-chance-on-me/), and I thought I'd tack on a less realistic, more stat-packed answer to that question.
I think most of yall overlooked the last sentence in the first paragraph. I dont think he should be a Brave, just thought it was an interesting article, at least for the stat junkies out there.

Rip4144
03-04-2008, 05:49 PM
Bonds does not have enough class to be a Brave. Not a good clubhouse guy and why disrespect Hank Aaron.

Hey, look up Maddux's stats vs Clemens. Pretty Interesting. Shows what can be done without steroids.

carolinainsider
03-04-2008, 07:31 PM
I don't understand why a American league team hasn't taken a chance on Bonds yet.

GrandMasterB
03-04-2008, 07:39 PM
I don't understand why a American league team hasn't taken a chance on Bonds yet.

I'm sure most teams don't just jump at the chance to sign a player who's being investigated for perjury.

BF91
03-04-2008, 07:42 PM
I don't understand why a American league team hasn't taken a chance on Bonds yet.

Because he's a clubhouse cancer and is only interested in himself. Sure he can play ball, but who wants a injury-prone, arrogant, old slugger in the clubhouse alienating everyone? Not good for business!

nittanylionfan3
03-04-2008, 08:10 PM
And, hes not going to be hitting homeruns in the slammer.

JCStone57
03-04-2008, 10:15 PM
And, hes not going to be hitting homeruns in the slammer.

I see where you're going with it, but chances Bonds sees jail-time are very slim. There's a reason that perjury charges come around so often. It's very hard to prove that a person actually lied under oath.

TheMatrix31
03-05-2008, 06:44 PM
Because he's a clubhouse cancer and is only interested in himself. Sure he can play ball, but who wants a injury-prone, arrogant, old slugger in the clubhouse alienating everyone? Not good for business!

That .1045 OPS last year was just awful. :cool:

Bottom line is, for a team like the Devil Rays or Mariners, he'd be a perfect fit. He'll get them exposure and he'll be a vital bat in that lineup.

nittanylionfan3
03-05-2008, 07:40 PM
and, for any other team he'd just create problems.

tigerfan
03-05-2008, 08:29 PM
and, for any other team he'd just create problems.
I think for any team he would create problems. Just like so many other athletes always in the spotlight. Its just can that team minimize the problems to a point where its offset by his production

Big DDS
03-06-2008, 08:10 AM
Bonds shouldn't play on any team imo he needs to retire.

JCStone57
03-06-2008, 09:39 AM
Bottom line is, for a team like the Devil Rays or Mariners, he'd be a perfect fit. He'll get them exposure and he'll be a vital bat in that lineup.

Seattle doesn't need "that" kind of exposure that Bonds brings to the table.

MSU Bulldog
03-06-2008, 09:46 AM
That's like a fat girl in Playboy kind of exposure.

SCchief
03-06-2008, 11:14 AM
There are a lot of places that think Bonds would be a good fit in Atlanta, and quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing about them. What would we do, only play him on the road? He'd get booed out of the state if he were wearing a Braves uniform in Atlanta.


I feel the same way!!!!, It would put a sour feeling in my stomach to see him in a Braves uniform.

BF91
03-06-2008, 07:09 PM
That .1045 OPS last year was just awful. :cool:

Bottom line is, for a team like the Devil Rays or Mariners, he'd be a perfect fit. He'll get them exposure and he'll be a vital bat in that lineup.

Hey I said the man could hit, and he draws walks like flies to sh*t. But he's not healthy for the development of a young team. He's a clubhouse cancer, pure and simple. :cool:

nittanylionfan3
03-06-2008, 08:12 PM
That's like a fat girl in Playboy kind of exposure.

That would be pretty bad exposure right there!
Bonds just isn't good for any team anymore.

GrandMasterB
03-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Bonds needs to sign with a team, be their DH all year long and be the steal of the NLS vs. BN fantasy league. :nod:

JCStone57
03-07-2008, 05:54 AM
Bonds needs to sign with a team, be their DH all year long and be the steal of the NLS vs. BN fantasy league. :nod:

Once again I'm in need of a slap emoticon

milbraves
03-08-2008, 11:55 PM
Now Buster Olney's saying that with Alou and Delgado busted up, the Mets are a perfect fit for Barry Bonds.

If he ends up a Met, I don't know whether to be worried that he'd make them better, or excited because he'd turn the clubhouse on its head. But I do know I'd hate the Mets more, and I didn't even know I could..

vnodnarb
03-09-2008, 10:33 AM
Bonds would make them a better team, no question about it.

MSU Bulldog
03-09-2008, 10:37 AM
Bonds would make a lot of teams better, it's just that no team wants that negative attention, plus he could miss time for court.

McCarroll21
03-09-2008, 04:23 PM
It's not going to happen (http://www.baseballtalkonline.com/?p=248).

But asked last night if there is any remote merit to stories suggesting a pursuit of controversial slugger Barry Bonds is possible, a high-ranking Mets official insisted there is no interest in taking on the monumental baggage - which includes charges of perjury and obstruction of justice - stemming from the out-of-work home run king’s involvement in baseball’s ongoing steroids mess.

milbraves
03-09-2008, 11:24 PM
I kinda think Tampa doesn't have much to lose when it comes to signing him. Aside from having a negative effect on the younger players, they have alot to gain from signing him. He'll likely be somewhat cheap, as he's been sitting aroung "in playing shape" waiting for offers, and he can tear up their 322' line in RF.

Chop33
03-09-2008, 11:44 PM
I'm very curious as to what kind of salary he'll have this coming season. Are there any indications as to what kind of offer he is looking for?

McCarroll21
03-09-2008, 11:55 PM
I kinda think Tampa doesn't have much to lose when it comes to signing him. Aside from having a negative effect on the younger players, they have alot to gain from signing him. He'll likely be somewhat cheap, as he's been sitting aroung "in playing shape" waiting for offers, and he can tear up their 322' line in RF.
Why would the Rays want that kind of baggage? They just got rid of two young, talented players that had a tremendous amount of baggage. You don't trade Delmon Young and Elijah Dukes to clean up your team's image and then sign Barry Bonds in the same off-season.

Brandon13
03-10-2008, 02:05 AM
Tampa would seem like the most logical place for Bonds to end up but McCarroll does raise some good points in the previous post. I think Bonds career is probably over at this point.

KB 34
03-10-2008, 02:15 PM
The only logical place for Bonds to play at this point is a prison recreational team. Why any team would want him is beyond me. It was obvious last year that he played only when he wanted to and there was nothing anyone could do anything about it. This year, he will miss additional games to the ones he already takes off if court dates get in the way. This would have to be a clubhouse killer, especially if he acts like himself on top of things. I wouldn't be overly sad if another NL East team picks Bonds up because it will cause them nothing but problems. The little production Bonds gives them when he plays will be outweighed by the negatives, costing teams since nice wins. Still, the fact that Bonds would be playing and on the front page of everything ESPN makes me hope that he can't find a place to play at all. I'd love to see a storyline other than Clemens and Bonds for once.

milbraves
03-10-2008, 02:58 PM
I love that sig.