BN - 12 team - H2H Keeper

[McCarroll21]

Before reading any further in this thread, please refer to Braves-Nation.com 2008 Fantasy Baseball Information (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8255).

League Details
Teams: 12
Roster Requirements (25):
Offense (13): C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, UTIL
Pitching (9): SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P
Three (3) bench spots
Maximum Player Acquisitions: 40
Maximum Trades: No max
Waiver Period: No waiver
Trade Reject Time: 2 days
Trade Veto Process: Vote on message board. 4 no votes gets a trade rejected.
Trade Deadline: No deadline
Minimum Innings Limit: 25 IP
Scoring Categories:
Offense: AVG, OPS, R, HR, RBI, SB
Pitching: IP, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP Keeper Details
Teams will keep 6 players (turned in on a date to be selected later)
After the season is completed, teams can trade players up until the roster freeze date (to be selected later)
Draft order will be determined by reverse finish from prior year
It may not go in direct order of finish. The last place team from the 2008 season will be able to pick where he/she would most like to pick in the 2009 draft. Then the 11th place finisher will pick, etc.
Draft picks are not eligible to be traded
The first six rounds of the draft will be used to select each team's keeper picks
The draft will snakeThe initial draft will be scheduled to take place sometime in the range of March 18 to March 24.

The Cut:

Chief Knockahoma
Chopaholic
GrandMasterB
Hobbes
JCStone07
Jsh1284
lmartin6
McCarroll21
MPH
MSU Bulldog
RockTheShow
vnodnarbThank you to the other 8 who showed interest. I have your names saved and we will pull from those should we need a replacement owner. I think we have a real good set of 12 to go with here and it should be a fun league.

[MPH]

I'm interested.

[MSU Bulldog]

I am interested in being considered for this league.

[JCStone7]

I'm in.

[Hobbes]

I'm interested.

[mattybz28]

I'd like to play but understand if I'm now allowed as no one knows me.

Just a thought; IMO, H2H leagues are more fun when there's more scoring categories. BB, K, AVG, OPS, SB, CS, H, R, 1b, 2b, 3b, HR for offense, IP, K, BB, WHIP, ERA, W, L, S, and perhaps holds if you're really wanting deep rosters.

[Chopaholic]

interested

[vnodnarb]

Count me in.

[Chief Knockahoma]

yeah, Chief is in on this.

[RockTheShow]

Yes!! This is what I want to do the most!!

[gobravez]

Im in!

[Jsh1284]

Oh, please tell me there's still room for me. :D

[GrandMasterB]

I'm interested.

[jschafer5]

I'm interested.

[731BravesFan]

i'm interested.

[cjones1999]

I'm very interested in joining

[braveschopbraves]

interested:banana_xmas:

[MPH]

interested:banana_xmas:
Uh oh, looks like braveschopbraves wants to preface the fantasy baseball season with a dancing smiley competition! Ok, tough guy, ya wanna dance? Take this:
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[McCarroll21]

Notice that some of the settings have changed.


We talked about it last night in the chat and decided that we should change the way we're doing the free agent system. The way we have it set up now is that we have no waivers but teams will only be able to make 40 free agent pickups throughout the year. This will keep people from churning their players.

We also did away with the trade deadline.

[MPH]

The way we have it set up now is that we have no waivers but teams will only be able to make 40 free agent pickups throughout the year. This will keep people from churning their players...
This is fine, but if by "churning their players" you mean frequently turning over the bottom end of the lineup to achieve an optimal combination, I think that is a perfectly valid management tool whenever it is allowed within league rules.

[McCarroll21]

I'm talking about the people who make mass subs. Having a maximum acquisition limit will keep people from adding/dropping players on a daily basis. 40 isn't a hard thing to do. No one in our league from a year ago made more than 40 moves except for myself, and I think I made 45.

It makes your draft more important when you can't add/drop every day.

[thegame10]

I'm interested.

[Hobbes]

I'm not personally a fan of a no-waiver policy, since it favors folks who have access to the computer all day long and who can jump on players the minute they are dropped. While the transaction limit would help with that a little, it still takes a bit of the level out of the playing field IMHO.

[PhantomsCV]

I would love to do this!

[RockTheShow]

I'm talking about the people who make mass subs. Having a maximum acquisition limit will keep people from adding/dropping players on a daily basis. 40 isn't a hard thing to do. No one in our league from a year ago made more than 40 moves except for myself, and I think I made 45.

It makes your draft more important when you can't add/drop every day.


Yeah good addition, i hate when i get home late one night and someone has picked up a player i wanted to already.

[Chopaholic]

I'm talking about the people who make mass subs. Having a maximum acquisition limit will keep people from adding/dropping players on a daily basis. 40 isn't a hard thing to do. No one in our league from a year ago made more than 40 moves except for myself, and I think I made 45.

It makes your draft more important when you can't add/drop every day.


I am a "churner." However, I have no problem with the limit if I were to be selected.

[MPH]

I am a "churner." However, I have no problem with the limit if I were to be selected.
Same here, but whatever limits apply to FA signings are cool by me.:nod:

[lmartin6]

Put me on your list. Sorry I'm a few days late responding this, just now saw it.

[McCarroll21]

I know we're way before the Feb 14 deadline, but we've settled on a 12 and I'm not sure if it could improve any so we're going to go ahead and announce it now and then start working on filling the re-draft leagues tomorrow.

Check first post.

For those that didn't make it in this one, you'll be guaranteed a spot in the re-draft league of your choice.

[CB1]

Any room in any leagues for me?

[JCStone7]

You might get a re-draft league spot.

[CB1]

That's cool with me. Would it be a draft on the boards like it was last year?

[McCarroll21]

That's cool with me. Would it be a draft on the boards like it was last year?
Braves-Nation.com 2008 Fantasy Baseball Information (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8255)

Just a simple read through the link in the first post would have saved you from being clueless.

[mattybz28]

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[McCarroll21]

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LOL! Sorry.. this is a group that's proven to be competitive in other league's we've hosted and a group that combines competitiveness and people who have been with BN for quite a while. We'll get you in one of the other leagues though. :thumbsup:

[mattybz28]

LOL! Sorry.. this is a group that's proven to be competitive in other league's we've hosted and a group that combines competitiveness and people who have been with BN for quite a while. We'll get you in one of the other leagues though. :thumbsup:I know I'm new here but it still makes me :(.

I'm not new to fantasy sports though, so maybe if someone backs out I can be an alternate? :D

[McCarroll21]

We'll look to the re-draft leagues that we hold this year to look for potential replacements if someone backs out. I don't imagine anyone backing out before the draft this year ... I don't foresee that being a problem with the group we've selected.

[CB1]

Well, I'll get back in this league next year I guess. Wish there was more than one keeper league though...

[McCarroll21]

Might be something we look into in future years, but keeper leagues need stability and if we created two it would essentially eliminate any people we had to fill any open vacancies after year one.

[CB1]

I guess that's a good point, but it seems that there might be enough users interested in starting another one.

But I guess the stability part is an issue, so you may be right.

[cjones1999]

Come on dammit! someone back out! :)

[JCStone7]

Let's get this party started!!!

w00t (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/)

[McCarroll21]

I'll get all the league stuff started later tonight ... I'm going to be out for the next hour or so.

[Chief Knockahoma]

I'll get all the league stuff started later tonight ... I'm going to be out for the next hour or so.

it's been an hour or so and there's no league. your life is supposed to revolve around this site and it's members. double-u tee eff question mark exclamation point

[McCarroll21]

Draft date is March 12 at 9:30 PM CT. It's the only decent time I could find. If I made the draft date later, the only times would be 10:00 Central which would put you East Coasters late at night.

I changed up the settings some. I can change it if you don't like it.

Instead of a maximum acquisitions for the season, I put a maximum of 5 acquisitions per week. That shouldn't be too harsh, but it will prevent people from mass dropping.

I also added some stat categories to give us more categories to play with.

In addition to the 6x6 that we had, I added total bases and walks to the hitters and holds and K/9 for the pitchers. That will make setup men valuable, to some extent.

All of you will get a PM shortly with details on how to join.

[Hobbes]

I would again request to add back waivers. I didn't see the arguments against, but I think having waivers levels the playing field more.

[GrandMasterB]

I would again request to add back waivers. I didn't see the arguments against, but I think having waivers levels the playing field more.

Seconded on the waivers.

[McCarroll21]

I changed the settings to have one day of waivers. I think that would compromise with those who wish not to have them. I would imagine that everyone will be active enough to not need more than one day, right?

I kept the no waivers after the draft. Everyone not drafted will immediately become free agents.

[RockTheShow]

I say one day of waivers. But it really doesn't bother me anyway because I should be able to check it daily.

I'm excited to win this league.

[MPH]

... Instead of a maximum acquisitions for the season, I put a maximum of 5 acquisitions per week. That shouldn't be too harsh, but it will prevent people from mass dropping ...
Good thinking! This is an excellent compromise between those who like to tweak their rosters frequently and those who like to "set-and-forget." :bow:

[JCStone7]

Is there anyway we can do a Thursday night draft?

[McCarroll21]

Is there anyway we can do a Thursday night draft?
How about this?

Thu Mar 20 8:30pm CDT

Does that work with everyone, if not, I'll find something else. Soon, I'll create a subforum for this league so we can have different threads to discuss settings and things like that.

[Hobbes]

How about this?

Thu Mar 20 8:30pm CDT

Does that work with everyone, if not, I'll find something else. Soon, I'll create a subforum for this league so we can have different threads to discuss settings and things like that.
Works fine for me, although that will be third straight night of drafting in a row for me.

[McCarroll21]

Blah! I meant to change it to the Thursday after our scheduled draft.

This is the draft date and time: Thu Mar 13 8:30pm CDT

Sorry for anything that could confuse someone.

[vnodnarb]

Looks good.

[RockTheShow]

Reminder, draft is tomorrow night!

[JCStone7]

Looking forward to it! I took Friday off from work so I can give it full attention :D

[RockTheShow]

Looking forward to it! I took Friday off from work so I can give it full attention :D

I have practice at 8am Friday, Booo

[GrandMasterB]

Just remember, everyone. Make sure A-Rod drops to me in the draft. :)

:D

[JCStone7]

Just remember, everyone. Make sure A-Rod drops to me in the draft. :)

:D

You're not going to take BranJon first round?

[GrandMasterB]

You're not going to take BranJon first round?

Are you kidding me?! After the spring he's had??

I'm taking him in the second round.

[JCStone7]

Are you kidding me?! After the spring he's had??

I'm taking him in the second round.

:lol: Jair 1st round, Francoeur 2nd round for me. CHAMPIONSHIP!

[RockTheShow]

We should post the teams up here.

[mattybz28]

We should post the teams up here.I'd like to see how you guys drafted.

[MSU Bulldog]

Good draft guys, it was fun!

[JCStone7]

I'd like to see how you guys drafted.

If you're brave enough to let the Nation see your picks just create a thread with your team.

[MSU Bulldog]

I just saw on ESPNEWS fantasy insider that Scott Thorman was listed as a Top 5 prospect at 1B. :lol:

[JCStone7]

Okay, so with the game on Tuesday morning, how does that count? As part of a week in itself or Week 1?

[McCarroll21]

I think it'll count in with week 1.

[Hobbes]

I think it'll count in with week 1.
Probably. The opening Sunday night game usually counts as part of week 1, so I would think this Tuesday game would as well.

[mattybz28]

Yeah, it does.

Yahoo lists week one as March 24 - April 6.

[McCarroll21]

Blah! GMB and I had an epic battle in the first week. We split it, each going 8-8 (I have Swisher still playing and he has Polanco, though Polanco is on the bench) and most of the categories were REALLY close.

[GrandMasterB]

Blah! GMB and I had an epic battle in the first week. We split it, each going 8-8 (I have Swisher still playing and he has Polanco, though Polanco is on the bench) and most of the categories were REALLY close.

I'm surprised the pitching categories are as close as they are. I'm pretty thin there, and my starters (with the exception of Morales today) decided to stink it up this week.

[McCarroll21]

I got screwed with Billingsley and them not starting him due to rain. I thought with three pitchers starting today, I'd be able to catch and pass you in innings, but they only combined for 16 innings, I believe.

[RockTheShow]

Verlander lost me my lead tonight, he just blew up my WHIP average and gave Chop the lead. Most likely we will finish in a tie.

[Chief Knockahoma]

my team started strong and decided to give a 2007 Mets finish to the week so it looks like MSU won week 1 in our matchup.

[RockTheShow]

Felix Hernandez pitched 15 scores innings while K'ing 9, had a 1.00 Whip, and didn't get a win in either appearance, gah!!

[JCStone7]

Well went into today tied and Jon Garland decided to throw up a clunker so I'm going to lose 9-6

[MSU Bulldog]

I'd just like to say that I'm awfully happy that moves have been limited to 5 per week.

*lookin' at you MPH* :D

[MPH]

I'd just like to say that I'm awfully happy that moves have been limited to 5 per week.

*lookin' at you MPH* :D
LOL, you'll spend the season lookin' UP at me! :cool:

[JCStone7]

LOL, you'll spend the season lookin' UP at me! :cool:

Everybody did, no one else had a full roster daily :thumbsup:

Nothing wrong with it, just no one had the time or effort to do it.

[MPH]

These last few posts seem like gently veiled criticism of my fantasy strategy, and there have been other comments about it previously, and that's cool, but I guess I should address the issue directly.

My frequent roster changes resulted in ongoing improvement of my team, not just filling up roster spaces. Look over my roster today and you will see it is not filled up with disposable scrubs, but solid players who - due to improved play or injuries or trades - became standouts at some point during the season, or became available when one of the other teams dropped them.

Last week was a good example of my drop/add strategy. I added three injured players - two FA's and a waiver pickup - that I expected to return in time for the fantasy finals, and two of them are doing great now. I dropped the third when it became apparent his productivity would be less than expected, and in the meantime two of my other players (Gerald Wallace and Drew Gooden) went down with injuries, which necessitated some other moves. That's been my general approach all season - add players that I think will play well and help me win, and drop the ones I don't expect to contribute as much. That's why I won most weeks, not just compulsive 'roster churning' to get a few points from some scrubs with busy schedules.

Anyway, we all play by the same set of rules, so what the heck. Frankly I'm glad to see the five-move limitation for the baseball leagues so those who depend more heavily on the quality of their draft - as opposed to ongoing, active management of their roster throughout the season - won't be doing the sour grapes dance again in October. :cool:

[JCStone7]

Not saying anything was wrong with it MPH. It's within the rules, everyone gets ticked off for seeing the first place man using the waiver wire successfully. I did it a few years ago in fantasy baseball (using spot starters daily) the opposition bitched so much that I didn't play with them again (these were my close friends too). So I know where and what you were doing and I'm cool with it.

My post was just a general distinction that I might've done it too if I had the time. :thumbsup:

[MSU Bulldog]

These last few posts seem like gently veiled criticism of my fantasy strategy, and there have been other comments about it previously, and that's cool, but I guess I should address the issue directly.

Just messin' with ya! Everyone likes to pick on the guy in the lead no matter how he does it.

[RockTheShow]

I love my team right now as long as Rollins is healthy.

[Chief Knockahoma]

CG, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 K performance for Brian Bannister!

[McCarroll21]

CG, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 K performance for Brian Bannister!
Equalized by this man...

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Sucks that in my shuffling outfielders, I had Corey Hart benched today with Pence in there. Pence sat and Hart went 4-5 with a run and an RBI.

[Chief Knockahoma]

Equalized by this man...

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nice!

[McCarroll21]

nice!
Ours is going to be close this week. When the games go final, I may try to calculate it out.

[Chief Knockahoma]

Ours is going to be close this week. When the games go final, I may try to calculate it out.

i think you're going to beat me this week...unless Melky has a good night. my team is doing what they did last week - decide to not show up on Sunday and allow a close week to slip away.

[McCarroll21]

My offense came to play today!

[McCarroll21]

LOL! Chief, B.J. Ryan coming off the DL and getting an inning in today gave me a 1 inning lead over you. Rauch coming in to save the game for Cordero today gave you one more save.

I think the innings are the only pitching categories that changed today.

I think I'm going to end up taking the RBI and TB from you on the final day.

[JCStone7]

My offense came to play today!

My offense (Francoeur) showed up yesterday.

[RockTheShow]

I was up 13-2.

Then my guys decided to hit under .150 for the weekend. Good Job.

[MSU Bulldog]

This league is much like the SEC, every team beating up on the other. Either that or C-USA and every team just sucks!

[RockTheShow]

This league is much like the SEC, every team beating up on the other. Either that or C-USA and every team just sucks!

Yup, everyone is pretty even so far this year. I can't till I get back Soriano and Rollins, then I can have some depth for my hitters.

[MSU Bulldog]

MSU Bulldogs - 16
Bama Slamas - 0

Talk about pitching a shutout!

[vnodnarb]

Is Pedro worth picking up in my other league?

[MSU Bulldog]

Is Pedro worth picking up in my other league?

I don't think I would waste a roster spot on him, unless you've already got a spot that you can experiment with.

[MSU Bulldog]

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[MSU Bulldog]

Go get him guys, Bruce has been turned loose! :eek:

[GrandMasterB]

Chief stinks. I picked up Bruce and got blocked!

[MSU Bulldog]

I was already wasting a bench spot on Justin Upton so I couldn't waste another as cold as Bruce is.

[Chopaholic]

Hell, I drafted the guy... ugh.

[MSU Bulldog]

Hell, I drafted the guy... ugh.

So you missed out three times. LOL

[Chief Knockahoma]

Chief stinks. I picked up Bruce and got blocked!
Pat Burrell sure would be a nice addition to my team...:D

[Chief Knockahoma]

Go get him guys, Bruce has been turned loose! :eek:
thanks again MSU.

[MSU Bulldog]

thanks again MSU.

Your welcome.

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I have a feeling that my luck is running out.

[JCStone7]

Damn you Mac and you're higher waiver wire!

[McCarroll21]

Damn you Mac and you're higher waiver wire!
:) My team's not doing that great this year. Might as well try to rack up as many possible keepers as I can. If I get too many, I can always try to package them for something over the off-season.

[GrandMasterB]

Damn you Mac and you're higher waiver wire!

Blocked me, too, although I've already got at least two keepers in the outfield. Stinkin' waiver wire is rewarding the teams that are higher up; I smell a conspiracy! :D

[McCarroll21]

I've got quite a few keeper options, too.

Geovany Soto, David Ortiz, Evan Longoria, Josh Hamilton, Matt Holliday, Alex Rios, Carl Crawford on offense and then Felix Hernandez, James Shields and Chad Billingsley on my pitching staff.

It's going to be hard to narrow that down to six, but if nothing else I can try to package a couple together somewhere for a team looking for depth and get a better keeper.

[MPH]

... if nothing else I can try to package a couple together somewhere for a team looking for depth and get a better keeper.
Ha ha, I have good players, but I did a very poor job managing them. They deserve better. I suck. :(

[JCStone7]

Playoffs start today!

Coming for the 7th place title!

[vnodnarb]

When do we have to decide our keepers by? And we get 6?

[McCarroll21]

When do we have to decide our keepers by? And we get 6?
I was about to post this.

I'll post a new thread about it and stick it so it doesn't get lost.

[GrandMasterB]

Playoffs start today!

Coming for the 7th place title!

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I'm #7! :D

[McCarroll21]

Nice waiver pickup Stoney. I was hoping no one in front of me (which is about 10 of you) wouldn't notice he had been added.

[JCStone7]

Nice waiver pickup Stoney. I was hoping no one in front of me (which is about 10 of you) wouldn't notice he had been added.

Nope I kept checking daily :D, I might keep him as well

[McCarroll21]

Nope I kept checking daily :D, I might keep him as well
That was going to be my sole purpose for picking him up. To add him to the guys that would be worth keeping and maybe being able to package a couple of these guys together to improve on my keepers for next year.

[JCStone7]

That was going to be my sole purpose for picking him up. To add him to the guys that would be worth keeping and maybe being able to package a couple of these guys together to improve on my keepers for next year.

I still would like to take Carl Crawford off your hands :cool:

[Chopaholic]

Congrats Hobbes! I am sick of playing you in the finals.

[Hobbes]

Congrats Hobbes! I am sick of playing you in the finals.
Thanks! I started out so poorly this season it never crossed my mind that I could even claw my way into the playoffs, let alone win them.

Next year we have to add another DL slot. When your top 4 or 5 guys are on the DL, it really limits your ability to field a competitive team.

[MPH]

Good job, Hobbes, and some really smart strategy towards the end. :bow:

[McCarroll21]

I've copied everyone's rosters and am posting them all in the off-season roster thread. I'm trying to post them under everyone's username so you will have the ability to go back and edit the roster.

It will be closed again soon, I just wanted to let you know why you're seeing it posted under your name and tell you that I will post them for you, you don't have to go in and post yours.

[McCarroll21]

Okay, everyone's rosters are posted. Most teams actually have 26 players because they had a player on the DL at the end of the season.

Refer to this thread (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12565) for more information on other teams' rosters and deadline dates.

You may only trade players right now, if someone is on free agents, you will have to wait for the draft to have a chance at them. The only players eligible to be moved right now are those on each person's roster.

Remember you have six keepers.


Off-season roster notes... (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12565)

[Hobbes]

By the way, I want to thank all those folks who passed on Albert Pujols due to concerns about his health, allowing him to drop to me at #7. :thumbsup:

[MSU Bulldog]

Damn it! Damn it! Damn it!!!!!!!!!!