Yanks Sign A-Rod; 10 years, 275 Million

[vnodnarb]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112799

The 275 million is guaranteed, many more millions are possible in incentives, including passing the all time HR leader Barry Bonds. This is surprising in that most people thought A-Rod hated playing in NY, but it's logical in that they were probably going to be the only team to offer anything in the vicinity of what he wanted.

[HeidiBee21]

I simply love that he met without his agent.

[BravesfaninNC]

the fact that Arod is getting 275million is anther reason why baseball must have a salary cup asap.Don't get me wrong Arod is a very good player he might be that best player in the game today but is he really worth 275Mill.I mean what next a player will get a 1year deal for 200Mill when Will it stop .When will teams say enough is enough with the way team like the Yankees throw money around you would think that if a player get a 1Mill per year then this player is consider poor when in fact he is very rich person

[SCchief]

Please remove this thread, being a Braves fan I really don't care what the Yankees are doing right now, just praying and hoping that we can get our team back to the top where they belong.

P.S. agree with Heidibee that he met without his agent.
Official screw Scott Boras fan club here

[HeidiBee21]

P.S. agree with Heidibee that he met without his agent.
Official screw Scott Boras fan club here

I love it when people are smart enough to agree with me.

lol jk jk

[Nic]

What a fucking idiot. Hope you enjoy rotting away in that hell hole of a city where you'll never be appreciated. :thdown:

[PhantomsCV]

YAY, that means that no more Where in the World is Alex Rodriguez!!!!

ESPN is kinda mad about this because they have an A-rod story every night on there!!! I still watch it though...

Also with A-rod done and Boras probably feeling pissed about that, he's going to work very hard to get AJ his huge contract to save himself some dignity.

[HeidiBee21]

YAY, that means that no more Where in the World is Alex Rodriguez!!!!

ESPN is kinda mad about this because they have an A-rod story every night on there!!! I still watch it though...

Also with A-rod done and Boras probably feeling pissed about that, he's going to work very hard to get AJ his huge contract to save himself some dignity.

...you make it sound like he actually has some.

[Hobbes]

A-Rod met without Boras, but he wasn't going it alone. Boras was providing advice during the negotiations from Florida. And I guarantee he and A-Rod met extensively in preparation for this process. His fingerprints are all over this deal. This is not a case where Boras was shut out of the process, he just wasn't in the room.

I think the Yankees wanted to make sure the all-time home run record was set by a player in pinstripes.

[HeidiBee21]

A-Rod met without Boras, but he wasn't going it alone. Boras was providing advice during the negotiations from Florida. And I guarantee he and A-Rod met extensively in preparation for this process. His fingerprints are all over this deal. This is not a case where Boras was shut out of the process, he just wasn't in the room.

I think the Yankees wanted to make sure the all-time home run record was set by a player in pinstripes.

Of course they did, and I know Boras was still involved. I just like that he wasn't "there"

[nickzilla6066]

Damn, I was gearing up for my dream to finally come true, Wilson Betemit as a starting 3B. Oh well I suppose.

[tigerfan]

good for A-rod. make all the money you want as long as its not in the nl east. and i mean who wouldnt want to be a yankee? as much as I hate the team they bang the likes of mariah carey while atlanta braves stars are knocking up hooters girls. i mean come on

[JayDonnelly10]

Please remove this thread, being a Braves fan I really don't care what the Yankees are doing right now, just praying and hoping that we can get our team back to the top where they belong.

P.S. agree with Heidibee that he met without his agent.
Official screw Scott Boras fan club here


Ummm this is a Braves board but we can still discuss other baseball teams on here.....if you really dont like the thread ignore it


What a fucking idiot. Hope you enjoy rotting away in that hell hole of a city where you'll never be appreciated.


Am I the only one who doesnt understand why hes and Idiot....hes the best player in the game and is getting payed as the best player in the game....If I was him id do the same thing minus actually opting out in the first place


This is not a case where Boras was shut out of the process, he just wasn't in the room.



Correct, Boras wouldnt be allowed to be entirely shut out of the deal anyway by rules of the collective bargaining agreement in baseball
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[BravesfaninNC]

Ummm this is a Braves board but we can still discuss other baseball teams on here.....if you really dont like the thread ignore it



Am I the only one who doesnt understand why hes and Idiot....hes the best player in the game and is getting payed as the best player in the game....If I was him id do the same thing minus actually opting out in the first place



Correct, Boras wouldnt be allowed to be entirely shut out of the deal anyway by rules of the collective bargaining agreement in baseball
<!-- / message -->btw i was wondering as good as Arod is don't you think that still 275mill is way too much money?

[JayDonnelly10]

btw i was wondering as good as Arod is don't you think that still 275mill is way too much money?

Absolutely its too much, but if u just take it as 27.5 million a season its not worse than some other contracts

Manny Ramirez makes 20 million a season, A-Rod is better so he deserves to make more

Id be all for a salary cap in order to make things competitive but it will never happen in baseball....

A-Rod is baseballs best player and may end up as the greatest who ever played, hes getting payed....if i were in his shoes I wouldnt want it any other way

[nickzilla6066]

Why would his salary be too much? Independent parties reached the agreement, no one put a gun to the Yanks head and made them pay that much nor did anyone force A-Rod to sign. Yes, it is probably more than his productive value, including putting fans in the seats, but some teams put a premium on name recognition (thank God our team seems to avoid this as much as possible) and "star" stature, the Yanks being first on that list.

I say let teams spend what they will on who they will, they only hurt themselves if the player declines horribly or gets injured. As long as MLB has a mechanism to help smaller market teams (which unlike real world businesses don't have as much freedom of movement to pick up and go where the business is good) that show an interest in being competitive (I emphasize that point) let teams like the Cubs or Yanks or BoSox throw around bad contracts. ~27 million a year for A-Rod isn't nearly so egregious as 10 million for Gary Mathews JR. or ~20 million for Derek Jeter.

[BravesfaninNC]

Why would his salary be too much? Independent parties reached the agreement, no one put a gun to the Yanks head and made them pay that much nor did anyone force A-Rod to sign. Yes, it is probably more than his productive value, including putting fans in the seats, but some teams put a premium on name recognition (thank God our team seems to avoid this as much as possible) and "star" stature, the Yanks being first on that list.

I say let teams spend what they will on who they will, they only hurt themselves if the player declines horribly or gets injured. As long as MLB has a mechanism to help smaller market teams (which unlike real world businesses don't have as much freedom of movement to pick up and go where the business is good) that show an interest in being competitive (I emphasize that point) let teams like the Cubs or Yanks or BoSox throw around bad contracts. ~27 million a year for A-Rod isn't nearly so egregious as 10 million for Gary Mathews JR. or ~20 million for Derek Jeter.His salary is way too much because i really believe that you can find a guy who can hit as much HR as Arod drive in as much RBI as he does put up very good numbers and yet that players would not get 275Mill

[nickzilla6066]

His salary is way too much because i really believe that you can find a guy who can hit as much HR as Arod drive in as much RBI as he does put up very good numbers and yet that players would not get 275Mill

Of course you can find someone that produces at a high rate and underpay them (well, not at that high a production rate), but A-Rod is a star, simple as that. He is among the best at what he does and has been for a long time. Largely he gets paid symbolically for it, his productive value on the field is only part of the equation.

Good teams find quality players who put up real good numbers at market or below prices all the time and let those players leave when their cost exceeds their actual value. Teams seeking financial efficiency will follow such a model. Other teams that may not have tight financial constraints can and will overpay for stars and I say let them overpay for the "logo" if they so choose, it really doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. Just wait 10 years for the Yanks to be stuck with an old A-Rod who is getting paid 20+ million to be a bench warmer (or so we can hope).

[McCarroll21]

His salary is way too much because i really believe that you can find a guy who can hit as much HR as Arod drive in as much RBI as he does put up very good numbers and yet that players would not get 275Mill
If it were that easy to be the best in the game, more people would be it.

[Nic]

Am I the only one who doesnt understand why hes and Idiot....hes the best player in the game and is getting payed as the best player in the game....If I was him id do the same thing minus actually opting out in the first place

He's an idiot because he's treated like crap by the fans in NY, yet he finally gets his chance to get out and go somewhere that he'll be appreciated and he runs right back to the same people that wanted him gone after one mediocre (which would be outstanding by most players standards) year. It's like the woman who continuously goes back to her cheating husband...same concept...

[mardale26]

The thing that a lot of people don't realize when they consider a players salary is the return on the investment that the team will get. They are not just paying that player for his homeruns, rbi's, or fielding. That is such a minor detail in the whole equation. The team is paying that player for the amount of revenue that he can generate for the team. Arod will generate way more than 275 million in revenue for the yankees or any other team for that matter. Which is the point that Boras tries to make in his proposal.

On another note, I would love for this whole incident to affect the way some other players view Boras' negotiating tactics (i.e. Tex) and do their own negotiating and take a lower salary.

[charpotsss]

It's like the woman who continuously goes back to her cheating husband...same concept...

or abusive husband.


His salary is way too much because i really believe that you can find a guy who can hit as much HR as Arod drive in as much RBI as he does put up very good numbers and yet that players would not get 275Mill

Finding guys as good as A-Rod (or even close) and not paying nearly as much as that for him is basically the goal of every GM. Get as much talent as possible for as little money as possible. However, the Yanks have a shit-ton to spend, so what's the problem with them throwing 275 at A-Rod? It's not like they're really buying a World Series title every year; haven't won it since 2000.

[Scalpel19]

I can't help but laugh at how funny it is that A-Rod tucked his head between his legs and had to go back to daddy. He was an idiot for thinking he would get that much from any other team

[C-Dawg]

Be careful what you wish for in re: salary cap. Everyone was singing the praises of parity in the NFL, but it's starting to get a little old...kinda like interleague play in MLB. At first, it was kewl b/c we were all sick to death of the C-Boys, Niners, etc, and it was neat to see some underdog, perennial door mat team like the Falcons, Seahawks, Colts, etc, etc, etc finally get some respect. But now it just seems rather hollow to me. i mean...like the Saints last year....I would normally love to see such an unheralded underdog succeed, but I just kinda had this feeling like that they weren't really "good"....rather, it was just kinda their turn to catch the momentum train and have a good year. And of course now they've gone back to being garbage.

The same thing would eventually happen in MLB...hell, the wildcard has already allowed it happen to some degree. In the end, we can't ALL have our team in the playoffs to root for, but we can at least ALL have our most hated rival in there to root against (i.e. Yankees, Red Sox and yes even the Braves for many people). A salary cap might completely take those teams out of the playoff picture altogether, and leave us with a field of say: Brewers, Pirates, gNats, Rockies in the NL and Jays, Rays, Twins, and Mariners in the AL.

[charpotsss]

A salary cap might completely take those teams out of the playoff picture altogether, and leave us with a field of say: Brewers, Pirates, gNats, Rockies in the NL and Jays, Rays, Twins, and Mariners in the AL.

it's terrible to say but that would just be....terrible. except for the nats. i can't root against them.

i must agree with you - i kinda like having the powerhouses to hate on.

[vnodnarb]

Be careful what you wish for in re: salary cap. Everyone was singing the praises of parity in the NFL, but it's starting to get a little old...kinda like interleague play in MLB. At first, it was kewl b/c we were all sick to death of the C-Boys, Niners, etc, and it was neat to see some underdog, perennial door mat team like the Falcons, Seahawks, Colts, etc, etc, etc finally get some respect. But now it just seems rather hollow to me. i mean...like the Saints last year....I would normally love to see such an unheralded underdog succeed, but I just kinda had this feeling like that they weren't really "good"....rather, it was just kinda their turn to catch the momentum train and have a good year. And of course now they've gone back to being garbage.

The same thing would eventually happen in MLB...hell, the wildcard has already allowed it happen to some degree. In the end, we can't ALL have our team in the playoffs to root for, but we can at least ALL have our most hated rival in there to root against (i.e. Yankees, Red Sox and yes even the Braves for many people). A salary cap might completely take those teams out of the playoff picture altogether, and leave us with a field of say: Brewers, Pirates, gNats, Rockies in the NL and Jays, Rays, Twins, and Mariners in the AL.

The competitive balance in the NFL and NBA are infinitesimally better.

[C-Dawg]

The competitive balance in the NFL and NBA are infinitesimally better.

Well yea because in the NBA, pretty much so long as you don't quit, you make the playoffs. Nevermind the fact that it's utterly unwatchable and basically irrelevant.

[absintheofmalaise]

Players generate about $2.5mm for each additional win they bring to a team above what an average MLB player brings in. A-Rod is not going to be generating $275mm for the MFYs. They have a huge cash cow generating revenue with their TV network. They will also be able to deduct a lot of the costs of the stadium so their revenue sharing payments will be less than what they would normally pay. Teams do not get anymore revenue from merchandise sales than every other team unless the merchandise is bought at a store that the team owns.
As far as the small market teams go, some of them have been pocketing the revenue sharing money they get from MLB. Some have started to invest it in their own teams by beefing up their player development system and/or signing their good young players to contracts. Look at Cleveland, they are considered a mid-market team at best and they have an excellent player development system and some exciting young players that they will have for many years because they have spent their "extra money" wisely. If their best two SPs hadn't imploded they would be the team with the trophy right now.

[charpotsss]

it's not like steinbrenner's main goal is to generate money anyway. the man is rich as hell as it is. he just wants his team to be the best and to win because he's all about power and stature.

[Rynliquid]

Bullshit to those who justify his contract based on the "revenue" he'll bring in. This is the Yankees we're talking about. They were a billion dollar industry before A-Rod came on board, sold out Yankee Stadium before he came on board (as well as upping the attendance at other stadiums which does nothing to increase the Yankee's revenue), and would have done so again had he gone somewhere else.

And last time I checked, all that money they're paying him hasn't bought them one World Series yet (which is more money they are losing).

The Yankees made this deal because they CAN make this deal.

And because A-Rod is a pussy.

Say what you will about Barry Bonds, but at least he knew he was an asshole and never apologized for it. A-Rod is an asshole and wants everyone to think he isn't - and I venture to say that's probably not the only thing he wants to get behind him either.

[dogmanx23]

its bad enough there payroll is over $200M its going to get really bad when it hits $300M and i believe they are 3 years from hitting that mark. this is all ifs

Santana $25M
Tex ( U KNOW THEY WANT HIM) $20M
Peavy $18M
Holiday ($20M)

and yes they will be going after these people....

[JCStone57]

its bad enough there payroll is over $200M its going to get really bad when it hits $300M and i believe they are 3 years from hitting that mark. this is all ifs

Santana $25M
Tex ( U KNOW THEY WANT HIM) $20M
Peavy $18M
Holiday ($20M)

and yes they will be going after these people....

Doesn't mean they'll get all 4

[McCarroll21]

Why did A-Rod go back to the Yankees? Well, A-Rod wants paid. Simple. He's getting paid $27.5 million a year plus incentives to earn more ... incentives that he should meet with ease over the next 5 years, much less 10.

But along with getting paid, A-Rod, along with any other professional athlete, has a passion to win. What other team in the major leagues can pay him $27.5 million and still have enough money to field a team around him that could win?

None. That is why A-Rod is a Yankee.

The funny part in all of this is that he met without Boras, though it's obvious Boras was in on the negotiations. Better than that, because A-Rod hit free agency, the Yankees were forced to forfeit the large sum of money given to them by the Rangers to pay a portion of his original contract.

[dogmanx23]

Doesn't mean they'll get all 4

but they have the best chance to get all 4 because they can a ridiculous amount of money and get away with it. Who else can offer those 4 that kind of money seriously?

[dogmanx23]

Why did A-Rod go back to the Yankees? Well, A-Rod wants paid. Simple. He's getting paid $27.5 million a year plus incentives to earn more ... incentives that he should meet with ease over the next 5 years, much less 10.

But along with getting paid, A-Rod, along with any other professional athlete, has a passion to win. What other team in the major leagues can pay him $27.5 million and still have enough money to field a team around him that could win?

None. That is why A-Rod is a Yankee.

The funny part in all of this is that he met without Boras, though it's obvious Boras was in on the negotiations. Better than that, because A-Rod hit free agency, the Yankees were forced to forfeit the large sum of money given to them by the Rangers to pay a portion of his original contract.


you know what be even more hilarious then this whole situation if another teams come out of knowhere and says $350 for 10 years its deja vu all over again. Remember A-Rod was pretty much a Braves and out of knowhere texas came out with $250.. thats why until its 100% confirmed and the press conference and all that other crap that comes along with it goes down. Hes still out there IMO

[JCStone57]

but they have the best chance to get all 4 because they can a ridiculous amount of money and get away with it. Who else can offer those 4 that kind of money seriously?

Yes they can offer that much money to all 4. True. But they won't get all of those players. The Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, hell even the Braves could offer any of those players 20 mill.

[dogmanx23]

Yes they can offer that much money to all 4. True. But they won't get all of those players. The Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, hell even the Braves could offer any of those players 20 mill.

your correct my worry with Tex is if we don't resign him this offseason and let him become a free agent we offer $20M yankees offer $25M. I could care less if those other players go there. I care about TEX. But im calling it now in 3 years yankees payroll will be $300M wait and see

[nickzilla6066]

your correct my worry with Tex is if we don't resign him this offseason and let him become a free agent we offer $20M yankees offer $25M. I could care less if those other players go there. I care about TEX. But im calling it now in 3 years yankees payroll will be $300M wait and see

Doubtful, they are operating at a loss, especially if their contract situation with YES becomes less advantageous after being sold. If anything I imagine their payroll will settle over time to between 150-175 million a year as some of their overpaid "franchise" guys come off the books over the next half decade or so. They'll run with things as is right now to field an all-star team through the new stadium opening but after that I have to believe the payroll deflates. Plus, even if they did go out and pump their 'roll up to 300 mil it is doubtful that this would necessarily make them any more likely to win the World Series but would mean more money for smaller market franchises to get better, something that is good for all of baseball.

[jschafer24]

I heard they offered Lowell a contract 4 years and in the neighborhood of 60 mil...

[SamtheBravesFan]

I heard they offered Lowell a contract 4 years and in the neighborhood of 60 mil...

Yeah, I saw that on ESPN. If Lowell is manning first base, does that mean the Yankees will then sign Teixeira to move Mike to DH?

[nickzilla6066]

Yeah, I saw that on ESPN. If Lowell is manning first base, does that mean the Yankees will then sign Teixeira to move Mike to DH?

I wonder more about Giambi and what they plan with him. Supposedly they are starting to look at Matsui as a full or close to full time DH. If they get an actual 1B that would leave Giambi as one hell of an expensive bench warmer. Wonder if they would trade him (and no, I am not insinuating to us, I am not that far gone yet).

[GrandMasterB]

I wonder more about Giambi and what they plan with him. Supposedly they are starting to look at Matsui as a full or close to full time DH. If they get an actual 1B that would leave Giambi as one hell of an expensive bench warmer. Wonder if they would trade him (and no, I am not insinuating to us, I am not that far gone yet).

His contract is up after next year anyway, unless the Yankees pick up the option for 2009. Can't envision them doing that though.

[nickzilla6066]

His contract is up after next year anyway, unless the Yankees pick up the option for 2009. Can't envision them doing that though.

Yeah but they still have to deal with him in '08, I can't imagine him taking being benched very well. If he is healthy I have to imagine he plays somewhere, he is just too good to keep on a bench (again, assuming health).

[tkane11]

Arod will play in Tampa Bay if they would pay him what he wants. I wouldnt want him on the Braves because he will never produce in the playoffs.

[JayDonnelly10]

Arod will play in Tampa Bay if they would pay him what he wants. I wouldnt want him on the Braves because he will never produce in the playoffs.

I wouldnt say never!

[Jsh1284]

That's actually not true. The NY press and fans want people to believe he dosen't produce in the playoffs, but minus two bad Octobers, he's a .320+ hitter in the postseason.

Arod's career line in October: .280/.362/.485. One HR every 22 AB

I'm sure he'll never be a Brave though .. lol .. of course.