The Official FA Signing Thread

[gobravez]

Braves clamied Chris Resop off of Waviers today and they DFA'd the last third of the fatty-trio(andruw, wickman, paronto)

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071025&content_id=2282232&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

[SamtheBravesFan]

Paronto was the one that was knocked off the 40-man roster for him. That's not a bad thing, but I wonder what Resop can bring to the team.

[gobravez]

Paronto was the one that was knocked off the 40-man roster for him. That's not a bad thing, but I wonder what Resop can bring to the team.


Nothing much.

[Corvette]

He could help Richmond defend their International League championship.

[McCarroll21]

The Braves are trying to catch the next Kevin Gregg. Pick him up from the Angels for nothing and hope he turns himself into a key piece of the bullpen at absolutely no risk to the team. If nothing else, provide some depth in AAA for when Ring, Devine, Acosta and Ascanio spend substantial time with the parent club.

[JCStone7]

Maddux (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3096282) re-signs with San Diego for 1 yr/10 mill

[Rip4144]

Here's one. Braves clamied Chris Resop off of Waviers today and they DFA'd the last third of the fatty-trio(andruw, wickman, paronto)

Actually, this was a cost cutting move. These guys were (AJ,Wickman,Paronto) were gobbling up the post game club house meals.

[Ol' Drippy]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071105&content_id=2293090&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Apparently, Maddux fell two innings shy of the $10 million guaranteed option for next season, but the Padres went ahead and gave him the money anyway.

It's apparent that the Padres ownership cares for its personnel, unlike the Chargers.

[Boogotshot]

Good for Maddux, I'm glad he is getting his due. He certainly wouldn't have gotten that kind of money from the braves.

I'm glad to see Paronto go but I don't think a guy with a career 5.48 era is much better.
I don't see him on the 40 man roster on opening day.

[Scalpel19]

Hey even Maddux came cheaper than Carlos Silva

[Boogotshot]

I'd still like to see the Braves get a good bat in the lineup

[KB 34]

The Braves lineup was arguably the best last year and will be just fine. Does anyone honestly think losing choker Fandruw is going to kill it? Losing Renteria won't help but he's replaceable. Now let's talk about the Braves #3-5 starters and what a laughing stock they were. One thing needs help, the other will be just fine.

[JayDonnelly10]

Pettitte opted out of his contract but could still sign with Yanks

rotoworld.com

Yankees announced that LHP Andy Pettitte declined his $16 million player option for 2008.

Pettitte had to decide by Wednesday and wasn't going to be ready to make an announcement then. He'll still get his $16 million if he decides to play for the Yankees next season. "If Andy decides to play, I am confident we can reach an agreement with the Yankees within 24 hours," agent Randy Hendricks told the Daily News. "The only options, as Andy has stated, are the Yankees or retirement. He appreciates the Yankees willingness to give him the time he feels he needs. I do not expect him to make a decision for quite some time."

[TheMatrix31]

Too bad it's Yankees or bust. I would kill to have him on this team. I'd rather have him than Glavine (is that an obvious statement? hmm)

[vnodnarb]

Too bad it's Yankees or bust. I would kill to have him on this team. I'd rather have him than Glavine (is that an obvious statement? hmm)

Money aside, of course. When salary is factored in, he's not a good deal, though I'm starting to wonder if Glavine will be. With the price of free agents sloping up again pretty dramatically especially with pitchers, there is such a gap between them and the young players who are locked in at <1 million usually that it's creating a very weird economics in baseball.

[JayDonnelly10]

Schilling looks to be inked for 8 million with 2 million in incentives....that might be a foundation for Glvaines deal? 7-8-9million for Glavine

I dont think he'll go more than 9 million, and I think Glavine will be around 7-8 million

[gobravez]

Braves interested in Kobayshi (sp?)
http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball/p-bb-tp0-20071103-278281.html

go here to see translation:
http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7368

and mlbtraderumors had something to say about it too:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/11/odds-and-ends-3.html

[JayDonnelly10]

Juan Uribe re-signs with White Sox 1yr deal $4.5million

source: mlbtraderumors.com/rotoworld.com

According to Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 in Chicago, the White Sox have re-signed shortstop Juan Uribe at one year, $4.5MM. That represents a 10% discount for the Sox compared to his club option.

[JCStone7]

Damn it, why can't these bastards wait one day so at least I can look smart when it would be in my article.

Dotel (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071107&content_id=2295061&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl&partnered=rss_atl)

[gobravez]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Braves-in-search-of-backup-shortstop?urn=mlb,52934

We want a backup SS. WOO HOO! lol.

[McCarroll21]

Hmm.... Enter Lillibridge. :D

[SamtheBravesFan]

Neifi Perez, Alex Gonzalez or Royce Clayton, come on down! You're the next backup shortstop on the Atlanta Braves!

[JCStone7]

Brewers sign Jason Kendall (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3122567) to play catcher for the departed Johnny Estrada.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Brewers sign Jason Kendall (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3122567) to play catcher for the departed Johnny Estrada.

HA! They're stupid. :D

[BravesfaninNC]

Neifi Perez, Alex Gonzalez or Royce Clayton, come on down! You're the next backup shortstop on the Atlanta Braves!Why would you want Neifi Perez a big time Roids user?

[C-Dawg]

Why would you want Neifi Perez a big time Roids user?

I'm beginning to believe they're aren't too many "clean" players left out there....at least none that are worth a hoot. It's really giving me a greater appreciation for the obvious non-cheaters like Glavine and Doggie who managed to have a lot of success while clean.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I'm beginning to believe they're aren't too many "clean" players left out there....at least none that are worth a hoot. It's really giving me a greater appreciation for the obvious non-cheaters like Glavine and Doggie who managed to have a lot of success while clean.

I've actually heard an accusation by a guy on Baseball Fever that claimed Maddux scuffed the ball. He says it's in 3 Nights In August, but I couldn't find it.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Why would you want Neifi Perez a big time Roids user?

Didn't help him, did it? ;) Seriously, I was naming several garden-variety backups.

[JCStone7]

I've been on the bandwagon to bring Royce Clayton as the backup for 2008 shortstop.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I've been on the bandwagon to bring Royce Clayton as the backup for 2008 shortstop.

That wouldn't be such a bad idea, because he'd be a hell of a lot better than Chris Woodward with the stick, and Prado can handle second and third.

[BGarrett7]

Eh, why waste money on a FA when we've got Lilli?

[JCStone7]

Eh, why waste money on a FA when we've got Lilli?

So you want Lilli to ride the pine behind Esco?

[JCStone7]

Scott Linebrink (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3123781) signs with White Sox.

[BGarrett7]

So you want Lilli to ride the pine behind Esco?Considering I foresee Esco struggling, I don't think Lilli would be riding the bench enough to hamper his development. Plus, if the Braves really are still looking towards Oakland for another pitcher and Kotsay, I would imagine Kage would be gone and Esco would be at second.

[BravesfaninNC]

The Cincinnati Reds, making their first big acquisition of the Dusty Baker era, have reached a preliminary agreement with free-agent closer Francisco Cordero on a four-year, $46 million contract, major-league sources say.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7480854

[Jsh1284]

Angels sign Torii Hunter for $90 million bucks

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3123200&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

Two big signings in the timeframe of a few minutes. Nice. Now we don't have to hear anymore speculation about Atlanta signing Hunter... yay ..

[BGarrett7]

Well, it's good that the Reds are working on their bullpen, they are gonna need it when Arroyo, Harrang and Bailey all have 200+ IP by early August.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Well, it's good that the Reds are working on their bullpen, they are gonna need it when Arroyo, Harrang and Bailey all have 200+ IP by early August.

Well, Arroyo and Harang can take it, because they've done it. I don't know about Bailey.

[josephw000]

Considering I foresee Esco struggling, I don't think Lilli would be riding the bench enough to hamper his development. Plus, if the Braves really are still looking towards Oakland for another pitcher and Kotsay, I would imagine Kage would be gone and Esco would be at second.


I for one don't see Esco struggling much at all, he has pretty good baseball instinct and seems to learn quickly and well. I would hate to see KJ go and have 2 positions in the middle of our field devoted to people that we don't know can play there at the ML level in Anderson/Schafer and Lillibridge....I'd rather send someone else, if possible.

[McCarroll21]

Rotoworld:
According to ESPN Radio 1000, the Cubs have signed Kerry Wood to a one-year contract worth $4 million.
If true, Wood may have turned down multi-year offers from other teams to remain in Chicago. General manager Jim Hendry said previously that he was only interested in retaining Wood as a reliever, so he could get a chance to close.

[josephw000]

Rotoworld:
According to ESPN Radio 1000, the Cubs have signed Kerry Wood to a one-year contract worth $4 million.
If true, Wood may have turned down multi-year offers from other teams to remain in Chicago. General manager Jim Hendry said previously that he was only interested in retaining Wood as a reliever, so he could get a chance to close.

Kerry who? ;)

[SamtheBravesFan]

Kerry who? ;)

Hmmm... he was some guy who once struck out 20 Astros in a game... damn, what was his name! It had something to do with trees...

[MSU Bulldog]

Top 10 under-the-radar free agents (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7484614)


3. Bartolo Colon, SP

As has been pointed out before in this space, Colon has some near-term upside (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7480466). He's coming off injury and his conditioning habits leave much to be desired, but he's still got excellent stuff, and his performance down the stretch last season proved he's still got something in the tank. He makes sense provided he's willing to sign a low-base, incentive-laden contract. If the market is such that he commands a multi-year deal, then consider him no longer worthy of this list.


Is this another worth a look?

[JCStone7]

I've been wanting Colon to sign an incentive-laden deal for the longest time.

[McCarroll21]

From reports I've received and read other places, we have spoken to Colon's agent. I'm not sure the details and how deep the discussions went, but I would pay attention to anything surrounding Colon up to his signing day.

[MSU Bulldog]

I've been wanting Colon to sign an incentive-laden deal for the longest time.

Maybe family tickets to the all you can eat beer and BBQ seats would be incentive enough!

[JCStone7]

Maybe family tickets to the all you can eat beer and BBQ seats would be incentive enough!

Why do you think they built Skip & Pete's? :D

Seriously tho, a former Cy Young winner at a bargain price just to prove he can still do it. The risk/reward could be astronomical IMO.

[MSU Bulldog]

Seriously tho, a former Cy Young winner at a bargain price just to prove he can still do it. The risk/reward could be astronomical IMO.

Agreed

[JCStone7]

KC signs Japanese reliever (http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071128&content_id=2313319&vkey=news_kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc)

[Hobbes]

Seriously tho, a former Cy Young winner at a bargain price just to prove he can still do it. The risk/reward could be astronomical IMO.
He was one of the most undeserving Cy Young winners in recent memory though.

I'm not a big fan of Fatolo, but we've cleared a lot of room out at the training table with Wickmoo and Paronto gone, so at least we can afford to feed him.

[JCStone7]

He was one of the most undeserving Cy Young winners in recent memory though.

Well whether deserving or not he still a damn good pitcher. Could be even better at the backend rather than the frontline starter.

[Hobbes]

Well whether deserving or not he still a damn good pitcher.
I'm not sure I would agree with that assessment, but at the back of a rotation he'd be fine. In any event I don't think he'd be available for a bargain price. Some pitching-strapped team will overpay him.

[MSU Bulldog]

In any event I don't think he'd be available for a bargain price. Some pitching-strapped team will overpay him.

That's what makes the Wright project appealing.

[JCStone7]

Yorvit Torrealba re-signs with the Rockies

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3133100

[SamtheBravesFan]

Now, I know that second base isn't exactly an offensive position, but this doesn't exactly do much to improve over Biggio's last seasons for Houston:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071130&content_id=2314060&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

Kazuo Matsui signs for three years, $15 million.

[MSU Bulldog]

Rogers returns to Tigers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/30/bc.bba.tigers.rogers.ap/index.html)

[McCarroll21]

Percival signs with Rays (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20071130&content_id=2314184&vkey=pr_tb&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb)

Nothing new really from what we've heard over the past few days, just makes it official.

[mark4004]

Well I feel this was a have to for the cards considering they have NO ONE to fill the ss position. Keeping in mind they have decided that Ryan is not ready to completely take over the position. It's on www.stlcardinals.com

[Jsh1284]

The rays are doing a nice job with that pitching staff. If they were in the AL Central, they might actually be competitive next year.

[gobravez]

The rays are doing a nice job with that pitching staff. If they were in the AL Central, they might actually be competitive next year.

BUUUUUUT their owner decided that he wanted to put them in the same division as the Yankees and Redsox.

[MSU Bulldog]

Jose Guillen signs with Royals (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7523434)

[milbraves]

It's official. I guess the Royals really are trying to make a run in the next few years. 12 mil per season seems like an awful lot for Guillen.

From ESPN.com
Outfielder Jose Guillen and the Kansas City Royals have reached a preliminary agreement for a three year, $36 million deal, a relative of the ballplayer told ESPNdeportes.com.

[Hobbes]

It's official. I guess the Royals really are trying to make a run in the next few years. 12 mil per season seems like an awful lot for Guillen.
The Royals pretty much have to overpay any free agent that they want to convince to come there.

[Lzray7]

Jose Guillen signs with Royals (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7523434)

Wow The Royals signing a good bat. i have been out of the loop for a while due to illness. besides Tom Galvin who else have the Braves signed this off season?

[MSU Bulldog]

Brewers sign Riske for $13 million (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/05/riske.brewers/index.html)

[McCarroll21]

Brewers sign Riske for $13 million (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/05/riske.brewers/index.html)
That's a lot of money for Riske. I wonder who the closer is going to be.

[MSU Bulldog]

That's a lot of money for Riske. I wonder who the closer is going to be.

I keep reading they are after Cordero, but Bowden keeps asking for Weeks.

[Corvette]

Braves clamied Chris Resop off of Waviers today and they DFA'd the last third of the fatty-trio(andruw, wickman, paronto)

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071025&content_id=2282232&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
I know this happened a couple months ago, but I wonder if they were thinking that Resop would turn into a solid reliever like other former Angels relievers like Bobby Jenks, Derrick Turnbow, and Kevin Gregg. That would be nice.

[JCStone7]

Timlin re-signs (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3145957)

[KB 34]

That's a lot of money for Riske. I wonder who the closer is going to be.
Right now it looks like Turnbow, which is going to make a lot of fans mad.

[McCarroll21]

Right now it looks like Turnbow, which is going to make a lot of fans mad.
Well, I guess now it's Gagne.

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Milton Bradley to the Rangers (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071209&content_id=2321827&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb)

One year, $5 million plus incentives. Not a bad get at all but that knee surgery should have scared some teams off. If he didn't have that surgery, I'd be jumping up and down with anger over the Braves not getting him.

[cjones1999]

Well, I guess now it's Gagne.

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Milton Bradley to the Rangers (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071209&content_id=2321827&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb)

One year, $5 million plus incentives. Not a bad get at all but that knee surgery should have scared some teams off. If he didn't have that surgery, I'd be jumping up and down with anger over the Braves not getting him.
Yeah, looks like the Rangers will have some clubhouse entertainment.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Well, I guess now it's Gagne.

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Milton Bradley to the Rangers (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071209&content_id=2321827&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb)

One year, $5 million plus incentives. Not a bad get at all but that knee surgery should have scared some teams off. If he didn't have that surgery, I'd be jumping up and down with anger over the Braves not getting him.

If he didn't have to have knee surgery, he probably would be a Brave right now.

[Corvette]

If he didn't have to have knee surgery, he probably would be a Brave right now.
he would probably be out of our price range.

[SamtheBravesFan]

he would probably be out of our price range.

Point taken.

[KRAZE E E803]

I really don't think that Bradley is all that good. He is a walking PR nightmare. I'm wondering if he can still even play center field anymore. Personally I'm glad we didn't take a look at him.

[JCStone7]

I really don't think that Bradley is all that good. He is a walking PR nightmare. I'm wondering if he can still even play center field anymore. Personally I'm glad we didn't take a look at him.

My sentiments exactly.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I really don't think that Bradley is all that good. He is a walking PR nightmare. I'm wondering if he can still even play center field anymore. Personally I'm glad we didn't take a look at him.

Gary Sheffield was a walking PR nightmare for years and he did just fine with Atlanta.

EDIT: I will admit that it seems like Bradley's whole career, he has either been injured or starting with someone else. Otherwise, he puts up decent stats for someone who plays as much as he does.

[JCStone7]

Gary Sheffield was a walking PR nightmare for years and he did just fine with Atlanta.

True, but I think Bradley is 10x worse than Sheff

[SamtheBravesFan]

True, but I think Bradley is 10x worse than Sheff

How so? All he does is get angry (sometimes REALLY angry), to my knowledge. Sheffield once claimed he deliberately performed worse to get out of Milwaukee, among other things. That's a little bit more serious, in my opinion.

[JCStone7]

Sheff has his own issues but I don't recall him getting into it with fans during games.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Sheff has his own issues but I don't recall him getting into it with fans during games.

I guess they're all issues in some ways. Oh well. We didn't take a chance on Bradley and that's that.

[GrandMasterB]

Sheff has his own issues but I don't recall him getting into it with fans during games.

I believe he did get into it a bit with a fan in Boston after one of them either hit him or dumped a drink on him (don't remember which one it was).

[JCStone7]

I believe he did get into it a bit with a fan in Boston after one of them either hit him or dumped a drink on him (don't remember which one it was).

Yeah you're right, but I still wouldn't want Bradley.

[GrandMasterB]

Yeah you're right, but I still wouldn't want Bradley.

I really wouldn't mind him at the price the Rangers got him at. I think there is enough veteran presence in Atlanta to keep him straight. But, as was mentioned earlier in the thread, he'd probably get more had he not gotten injured.

[BGarrett7]

Yeah, looks like the Rangers will have some clubhouse entertainment.He's going to be with Ron Washington, who wanted him on his team at all costs, because he had a great relationship with him during their time together in Oakland. Milton will not be a cancer in Texas like he has been everywhere else.

It will be a lot like Sheffield when he was in Atlanta. Cox was a manager that Sheff had always wanted to play for, and he did not take their time together for granted. He went out, performed, and did not cause any problems behind the scenes.

[JCStone7]

LoDuca signs with Nats (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3149188)

[McCarroll21]

So, the Nationals and Mets are still trading catchers? Last season, Schneider eventually became the backup to Jesus Flores, who the Nationals got in the Rule V draft from the Mets. Then the Mets come and give the Nationals Milledge for Schneider. Now the Nationals go sign Lo Duca, who the Mets let walk.

LOL! It's like musical f'n catchers...

[broke]

Padres sign wolf.......eh :shrug:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071210&content_id=2322387&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

[BGarrett7]

Randy Wolf for $4M? I'll take it!

[JCStone7]

Randy Wolf for $4M? I'll take it!

Half the Glavine for half the price, I'd do that too!

[Los Bravos]

I believe he did get into it a bit with a fan in Boston after one of them either hit him or dumped a drink on him (don't remember which one it was). The latter. One of those charming louts who've overrun Fenway in the last few years dumped a full cup of brew on him, quite deliberately.

[C-Dawg]

I believe he did get into it a bit with a fan in Boston after one of them either hit him or dumped a drink on him (don't remember which one it was).

Yup...and the bitch of it was that he did it mid-play and cost his team at least an extra base (if I remember correctly).

There was also that time in Chicago when he played for LA...a fan snatched a player's cap and Sheff went into the stands seeking retrobution.

[MSU Bulldog]

Monroe, Twins agree to $3.82M, 1-year deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7553082)

[JCStone7]

Borderline HOF to return (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/12/bc.bbn.dodgers.kent.ap/index.html)

[JCStone7]

Eckstein signs... (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7558686)

[MSU Bulldog]

Eckstein signs... (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7558686)

That weak armed bastard definitely is not juicing! lol

[gobravez]

according to mlbtraderumors... willie harris has signed with the nats

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/12/nationals-sig-1.html

[milbraves]

according to mlbtraderumors... willie harris has signed with the nats



I think that's the best thing that could possibly happen for Willie Harris.

[Jsh1284]

And the Braves.

[Jsh1284]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153906

This has got to be one of the biggest wastes of 4.5 million bucks, ever. I mean, seriousl .. how does a bad defensive SS with no bat, average speed, and no arm make more than 1 mil per? I feel sick.

Sorry, I didn't think to put this in the FA signing thread before creating the topic.

[GrandMasterB]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153906

This has got to be one of the biggest wastes of 4.5 million bucks, ever. I mean, seriousl .. how does a bad defensive SS with no bat, average speed, and no arm make more than 1 mil per? I feel sick.

Sorry, I didn't think to put this in the FA signing thread before creating the topic.

Your guess is as good as mine. I think I've figured it out though. Both the Angels and Cardinals won the World Series in their second year with him on the team. The Blue Jays are counting on signing him to a one-year extension so they can win the Series in 2009!

Yeah, that's it. :eek:

[JCStone7]

Dodgers close to signing Kuroda

[McCarroll21]

Dodgers close to signing Kuroda
...and it's done (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071215&content_id=2327324&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp).

[vnodnarb]

Kuroda looks to be a pretty good starter, here are his stats (http://japanesebaseball.com/players/player.jsp?PlayerID=986). He doesn't strike out a ton of guys, but his control is very good and he doesn't give up many home runs. He should be a good #3 in the National League.

[Corvette]

Pete Orr signs with Washington //http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071215&content_id=2327323&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was (http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071215&content_id=2327323&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was)

[Jsh1284]

Washington sure loves our rejects. Kasten must still be working for ATL, and trying to make the Gnats into our AAAA affiliate.

[shropshire77]

Washington sure loves our rejects. Kasten must still be working for ATL, and trying to make the Gnats into our AAAA affiliate.

are you saying Orr and Harris won't contribute? lol

[McCarroll21]

are you saying Orr and Harris won't contribute? lol
Don't forget Langerhans!

[Gibby]

Don't forget Langerhans!
They'd be a good match-up against the Braves... the Richmond Braves.:nod:
(Yes, I realize they beat us 7 times last year)

[gobravez]

Ron Mahay signs 2 year 8 million deal with the KC Royals.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7584366?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

[McCarroll21]

Wow. I thought Mahay would have at least been able to work out a three year deal somewhere. I thought he'd find a 3/$13 million.

[Jsh1284]

How sad. Another case of a guy going for the money instead of the ring. Considering this is his last big payday, though .. ya can't blame him.

[GrandMasterB]

How sad. Another case of a guy going for the money instead of the ring. Considering this is his last big payday, though .. ya can't blame him.

First big payday too. If I'm not mistaken, last year was the first time he'd even reached a million. If this is his last major contract, you'd think he'd at least go to a team with a chance of contending. Never know with a lefty reliever though. He may pitch another decade. :p

[Hobbes]

When you're a journeyman reliever at Mahay's age (36) you take the money when circumstances allow you to get it. A guy in Mahay's situation can't be picky about playing for a contender, he needs to take the payday.

[McCarroll21]

Silva, Mariners just a physical away (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071219&content_id=2333777&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb)
It is believed that the 28-year-old Silva will receive a four-year, $44 million pact to help improve a starting rotation that lacked starters that pitched deep into games last season.

[gobravez]

Rockies re-sign Mark Redman and sign Kip Wells!:lol:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071219&content_id=2333718&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

[C-Dawg]

I don't get the Mahay-to-the Royals deal. I mean....they are too far away to be throwing that kinda jack at a journeyman mid-reliever. He is the type of guy you get when you have the pieces in place, and you just need a guy to get you from your great starting pitching to your closer/set-up man.....like he did for the Braves last year. But he will be a waste of money in KC.

[McCarroll21]

Dayton is building his team the Braves way. The right mix of veterans and young guys, but not signing the veterans at the expense of a young guy.

Remember when Ivan Rodriguez went to Detroit? Everyone was thinking, why the hell did he do that? A few years later, he was in the World Series.

[C-Dawg]

Dayton is building his team the Braves way. The right mix of veterans and young guys, but not signing the veterans at the expense of a young guy.

Remember when Ivan Rodriguez went to Detroit? Everyone was thinking, why the hell did he do that? A few years later, he was in the World Series.

That's different....I never questioned that move. In fact, I predicted the Tigers to win the WS when it happened (I just predicted it to happen a little quicker than it did). I saw what Pudge did for the Marlins, and envisioned that he would have the same type of impact on a young, pitcher-oriented Tigers team.

But that move made sense because--even though they overpaid--you were getting an impact guy to round out a young team. Mahay, on the other hand, is a nice ancillary type of guy that you get when you already have a nice, rounded-out team. I wouldn't say the Royals have that yet.

[JCStone7]

What do you want the Royals to do? Sign a proven LH reliever for your pen or bring some guy in for the minimum because their not "ready" enough as a team. That makes no sense. You use your payroll to put the best 25 men on the field PERIOD end of story.

[C-Dawg]

or bring some guy in for the minimum because their not "ready" enough as a team.

Yes!

No point in wasting money or roster space just to give the illusion that you're trying.

[McCarroll21]

What's the difference in a young, 69-93 team signing Ron Mahay to a young, 65-97 team signing Terry Pendleton?

[C-Dawg]

What's the difference in a young, 69-93 team signing Ron Mahay to a young, 65-97 team signing Terry Pendleton?

You're not seriously making that comparison are you? Did my explanation of the Pudge move not make sense? TP gave us instant credibility as he was an impact player who made all the difference in the world to the braves back then. He was worth his weight in gold. He made a difference for us every night. mahay is a situational guy that may see action an inning at a time, every third day at most.

Look, if you want to make the argument that the Royals are better than I am giving them credit for, and that they already have all the major pieces, and they needed a guy like Mahay to glue them all together, then fine...explain it that way.

But to me, the Royals are still a mess...slightly better than the D-Rays, maybe. Adding a situational guy for that price is a mistake under those circumstances. The only good thing that may come out of this signing is when they trade him for prospects at the break.

[JCStone7]

You're not seriously making that comparison are you? Did my explanation of the Pudge move not make sense? TP was an impact player who made all the difference in the world to the braves back then. He was worth his weight in gold. Mahay will likely never be heard from again until his name comes up in trade talks at the break.

His argument was in response to this argument.

Yes!

No point in wasting money or roster space just to give the illusion that you're trying.

Why would the Braves go after TP and waste money for a team that hasn't had success in years?

[C-Dawg]

His argument was in response to this argument.



Why would the Braves go after TP and waste money for a team that hasn't had success in years?

Yes and I already explained the same exact thing in the context of the Pudge trade about 3 posts ago :D

[McCarroll21]

I'm just saying that young teams need a veteran too. Are they really not supposed to do anything and just be content with 5th place? Or do you think they would want to sign someone that may strengthen a weakness on their team (remember, no Dotel, no Greinke in that bullpen this year)?

I'll trust Dayton Moore over some dude posting on an internet message board. The only thing that shocks me out of the Mahay signing is that he didn't get a third year, the team doesn't shock me.

I mean, they signed Meche last year and he gave them 216 innings with a 3.67 ERA. Now they add Jose Guillen and Ron Mahay, another year on Alex Gordon and company...

The Royals are trying to compete; not just sitting around and wanting to look up at everyone for the rest of time.

[C-Dawg]

I'll trust Dayton Moore over some dude posting on an internet message board.

Hey...easy! :p

Seriously though...I respect them for trying, and I wish them the best.....better them than the damnable Yanks or BoreSox again. I just would have spent that money elsewhere. And if there wasn't a better option available, I believe I would have just stuck that money in my back pocket for a rainy day. I mean...All the stuff that I have been saying doesn't even take into consideration what most peeps seem to believe about Mahay which is that this past year was a fluke and he'll fade back into obscurity. That's a huge price to pay for obscurity.

But we can agree to disagree :beer:

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reports that Geoff Jenkins and the Phillies have reached a preliminary agreement on a two-year deal worth about $13 million.

Also Jeff DeVannon has signed a MLD Deal with the Padres...He might have been worth a MLD to compete for the CF Spot...He was bad last year, but he was solid with AZ and ANA 3 of his 5 previous seasons...even his worst year full season with ANA resulted in a .347 OBP...He would have at least been a good option to consider for the first 2-3 months till Schafer is ready between June-August...

[gobravez]

Astros sign Chad Paronto to a one year deal worth 500k.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/stories/2007/12/18/paronto_1218.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21

[JCStone7]

Astros sign Chad Paronto to a one year deal worth 500k.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/stories/2007/12/18/paronto_1218.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21

:throwup:

[SamtheBravesFan]

I think that's more deserving of a big fat

LOL

But that's just me ;)

[JCStone7]

Silva (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/20/silva.ap/index.html) signs with Mariners.

[GTBrave]

good the Mets don't get him.

[JCStone7]

White Sox sign Cuban exile (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3165277)

[JCStone7]

Jsh!

Brewers sign Gabe Kapler (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/20/brewers.kapler.ap/index.html)

[Jsh1284]

Nice! That puts their outfield in place, making my debate easier in terms of now I don't have to speculate!

[JCStone7]

Nice! That puts their outfield in place, making my debate easier in terms of now I don't have to speculate!

Haha they replaced free-swinging Jenkins with free-swinging Kapler. LOL

[BGarrett7]

Huge downgrade for Milwaukee there. Replacing Jenkins wasn't gonna be easy, but they certainly dropped the ball there. That is, if they actually are counting on Kapler starting in left. Right now, I'd probably place my money on Gwynn, Gross or Dillon getting the job ahead of him.

[JCStone7]

Rockies sign Luis Vizcaino (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3165337).

[JCStone7]

Rangers sign Eddie Guardado (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/122207dnsporanglede.3b085d1a.html).

[JCStone7]

Sorry Mc, but the Padres have signed Mark Prior (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3168825).

[SamtheBravesFan]

Sorry Mc, but the Padres have signed Mark Prior (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3168825).

No skin off my nose. Let them take the risk.

[Wren Mafia]

I would have loved to see him as a Bravo.

[lilsnatch07]

Wow the Braves couldn't give Prior 1 million for a year?!

[BGarrett7]

Wow the Braves couldn't give Prior 1 million for a year?!Well, considering the Braves still have arbitration to deal with, that guaranteed million for a pitcher who may never even throw another ML inning is pretty costly.

[RockTheShow]

I think Prior is a good risk, a lot of upside.

[Jsh1284]

I've got to agree with Rock. We gave Sturtze around that amount of cash last offseason and he did absolutely nothing for us. If we could've gotten Prior for around one mil and if he makes a comeback, we've got one HELLUVA starting rotation. Too bad we didn't take that chance.

[BGarrett7]

I think Prior is a good risk, a lot of upside.But ten times the downside.

Since his ML debut in May 2002, he has thrown a total of 657 innings. A third of those came in a single season (2003). That's barely 100 innings over the remaining four seasons where he has even thrown a pitch, not even including last year when he didn't even take the mound.

He pitched 211.3 innings in his second year in the Majors, and has averaged 89 innings over the other five years. In his 106 career starts, he has thrown over 100 pitches nearly 70% of the time. And of those 71 starts where he broke the century mark, 25 of them were in 2003, when he made 30 starts -- that's over four-fifths of his starts.

That adds up to over 300 innings in the Majors before he even turned 23!

Want to know something else? He's thrown exactly as many since that he did before, and he just turned 27.

Dusty Baker ruined this kid, period.

Heaven help Homer Bailey.

[Jsh1284]

I'm with you about Dusty. He seems to have a habit of running pitchers into the ground. I mean, how can a guy who things taking walks is 'clogging up the basepaths" be a major league manager? BUT .. I think Prior may eventually get back on the right track. If its this year, a lot of teams are going to regret not making a run at him. He is a much bigger risk than even Hamp, though.

[RockTheShow]

Your right that he has a lot of downside, but it is only a million for one year. Im not certain on how much room we have right now, financially, but I think we could have afforded this move. But maybe you are right, his arm may just be dead...

[BGarrett7]

Your right that he has a lot of downside, but it is only a million for one year. While it may be "only a million for one year" do you really want the Braves to have $16M tied up in two pitchers who could very easily not even throw a pitch in 2008?

[GrandMasterB]

While it may be "only a million for one year" do you really want the Braves to have $16M tied up in two pitchers who could very easily not even throw a pitch in 2008?

Considering what the other options are, yes.

A million in baseball today is not very much - for teams outside of Florida. I think it would be at least worth the risk of bringing him in. If he can't go, it's not as if the Braves risked the farm to get him. If he can, then it's a great move.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Why can't we just say the Padres made a reasonable risk that was probably available only to them at that price and leave it at that?

[BGarrett7]

The funny thing is, I was one of the strongest supporters of giving Prior a chance...

[SamtheBravesFan]

The funny thing is, I was one of the strongest supporters of giving Prior a chance...

Just for the sake of argument; if you were the GM, BG, how much money would you be willing to give to Prior guaranteed? Two to three million sounds like a good ceiling to me, but that's just me.

[BGarrett7]

Just for the sake of argument; if you were the GM, BG, how much money would you be willing to give to Prior guaranteed? Two to three million sounds like a good ceiling to me, but that's just me.I likely wouldn't have went after Prior unless I could have gotten him through a minor league deal with a spring training invite.

[McCarroll21]

Prior wouldn't have signed that contract for anywhere other than San Diego. Outside of San Diego, he probably wanted another year and/or more bills.

[JCStone7]

I've got to agree with Rock. We gave Sturtze around that amount of cash last offseason and he did absolutely nothing for us. If we could've gotten Prior for around one mil and if he makes a comeback, we've got one HELLUVA starting rotation. Too bad we didn't take that chance.

I believe it was $750K if he made the 25 man roster in which he didn't, that's why we brought him in, that is what I like to call a quantified risk.

[C-Dawg]

Dusty Baker ruined this kid, period.



. . . with a little help from HGH?

[KB 34]

I believe it was $750K if he made the 25 man roster in which he didn't, that's why we brought him in, that is what I like to call a quantified risk.
Try $750,000 guaranteed and $350,000 if he made the 25 man roster. There were also $450,000 in incentives which was pretty safe to say would be a formality only. For someone who was a bad reliever at best it was one of JS's dumbest moves of his time as GM.

[JCStone7]

I stand corrected as usual. Thanks KB :thumbsup:

[SanDiegoSteve]

Sorry Mc, but the Padres have signed Mark Prior (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3168825).

This move came as a bit of a surprise to me. Two weeks ago Sandy Alderson was telling everyone that he wasn't going to go after Prior when the name came up in interviews.

Then again, that should have sent up a red flag in my head, meaning that the Padres really were going after him.:rolleyes:

When Prior was in high school, I got to work 3 of his games behind the plate. I think he had 15 K, 17 K, and 15 K respectively. He was a good one, for sure.

[JCStone7]

Then Prior was in high school, I got to work 3 of his games behind the plate. I think he had 15 K, 17 K, and 15 K respectively. He was a good one, for sure.

You biased bastard, you worked 3 games and he had three 15K+ games. :p

[Jsh1284]

All upside-down K's too :eek: .. hehe

[gobravez]

When Prior was in high school, I got to work 3 of his games behind the plate. I think he had 15 K, 17 K, and 15 K respectively. He was a good one, for sure.

Ha ha, at first I thought you were saying that you caught those games then I figured out that you were the home ump. That's awesome!:)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Yeah, trust me...if I mention anything great happening with me on a baseball field, it probably involves umpiring the game. My baseball career didn't go past Colt league. I was pretty good, but not that good.:)

[SanDiegoSteve]

All upside-down K's too :eek: .. hehe

No, there were some swinging ones too.;)

And remember, these were 7 inning games, which is even more impressive. That's why the front rows of the stands were always filled with scouts and Jugs guns.

[lmartin6]

All upside-down K's too :eek: .. hehe

I'm just curious, but wouldn't an upside-down K still just be a K?

[Jsh1284]

LOL yeah, technically. Upside down K's are when a batter strikes out looking. Meaning the ump (SDSteve) was behind those good performances. Just messing with him a little bit.;)

[lmartin6]

LOL yeah, technically. Upside down K's are when a batter strikes out looking. Meaning the ump (SDSteve) was behind those good performances. Just messing with him a little bit.;)

Yes, I know what you were meaning by the "upside-down K." I've always written them/seen them as backwards K's. I completely caught onto what was being said and what was meant, I just wanted to throw out there that an upside-down K is still nothing more than a K.

[SanDiegoSteve]

LOL yeah, technically. Upside down K's are when a batter strikes out looking. Meaning the ump (SDSteve) was behind those good performances. Just messing with him a little bit.;)

I don't like being called a cheater. It really pisses me off.:rolleyes:;):D

[JCStone7]

I don't like being called a cheater. It really pisses me off.:rolleyes:;):D

It's not cheating if your paid off. :thumbsup: That's just simply bribery. :cool:

[JCStone7]

Darin Erstad (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/27/astros.erstad.ap/index.html) signs with the Astros for one-year.

[JCStone7]

Astros sign Oscar Villarreal (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/12/28/villarreal_1229.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21).

[McCarroll21]

Astros sign Oscar Villarreal (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/12/28/villarreal_1229.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21).
Keep him. :D

[MPH]

Keep him. :D
The Vulture's 2007 performance was a real disappointment after he showed such promise the previous two years. Hopefully he will get back on track and pitch better in the future.

[C-Dawg]

The Vulture's 2007 performance was a real disappointment after he showed such promise the previous two years. Hopefully he will get back on track and pitch better in the future.

The vulture, in 2007, was more like the hummingbird (i.e. the only bird who can fly backwards) :nod:

[BGarrett7]

Darin Erstad (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/27/astros.erstad.ap/index.html) signs with the Astros for one-year.Sucks to be Houston.

[gobravez]

Sucks to be Houston.

or johhny estrada :D

[McCarroll21]

Sucks to be Houston.
I wouldn't wanna coach Ole Piss either .... oh, wait.

[MSU Bulldog]

I wouldn't wanna coach Ole Piss either .... oh, wait.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa270/jefferwin/anm47082f3ecf40963c.gif

[JCStone7]

Yankees sign LaTroy Hawkins (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3170166).

[lmartin6]

Sucks to be Houston.

Is Wild turning his back on Houston already?

[BGarrett7]

Is Wild turning his back on Houston already?Until I see my money for my two-hit game a couple weekends ago, I'm going to be critical of team management.

[BravesfaninNC]

The Vulture's 2007 performance was a real disappointment after he showed such promise the previous two years. Hopefully he will get back on track and pitch better in the future.It true that 07 season for the Vulture's was not as good as 06 season was.At this some time i don't think that he was our worst pitcher out of pen last year

[josephw000]

It true that 07 season for the Vulture's was not as good as 06 season was.At this some time i don't think that he was our worst pitcher out of pen last year


Well you could make a good arguement that he was the worst also....

Latroy Hawkins, that guys sounds familiar. Wasn't he supposed to be a big timer in the big leagues?

[GrandMasterB]

Well you could make a good arguement that he was the worst also....

Latroy Hawkins, that guys sounds familiar. Wasn't he supposed to be a big timer in the big leagues?

Well, there was a three-year period from 2002-2004 when he was one of the best relievers in the game. A lot of his numbers actually compare favorably with Mariano Rivera's over the same timeframe.

Hawkins
ERA - 2.22
WHIP - 1.03
K/BB - 4.70
BAA - .230

Rivera
ERA - 2.02
WHIP - 1.03
K/BB - 4.15
BAA - .223

It's just too bad he couldn't sustain those numbers.

[C-Dawg]

Well, there was a three-year period from 2002-2004 when he was one of the best relievers in the game. A lot of his numbers actually compare favorably with Mariano Rivera's over the same timeframe.


It's just too bad he couldn't sustain those numbers.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....what would explain how a guy could arise from complete obscurity to dominance and then suddenly back to obscurity.....and around about the same time they started testing in MLB. :rolleyes:

[Hobbes]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....what would explain how a guy could arise from complete obscurity to dominance and then suddenly back to obscurity.....and around about the same time they started testing in MLB. :rolleyes:
Has to be more than that. Steroids might make a very good player into a great one, or a marginal talent into one capable of playing in the majors, but they aren't going to turn a scrub into a stud, particularly on the pitching side.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Has to be more than that. Steroids might make a very good player into a great one, or a marginal talent into one capable of playing in the majors, but they aren't going to turn a scrub into a stud, particularly on the pitching side.

You got that right. If it was true, I think we'd see a lot more people being caught.

[C-Dawg]

Has to be more than that. Steroids might make a very good player into a great one, or a marginal talent into one capable of playing in the majors, but they aren't going to turn a scrub into a stud, particularly on the pitching side.

Well it's not like they turned him into a Roger Clemens or anything...but relief pitching is so thin that PED's could make an avg relief pitcher really stand out.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Well it's not like they turned him into a Roger Clemens or anything...but relief pitching is so thin that PED's could make an avg relief pitcher really stand out.

I really don't think it's that simple.

[Jsh1284]

Ya still have to know how to fool hitters and get outs. WIth that said I'm not so convinced that HGH etc is much more than a tool that pithers use to recover from injuries faster. It might give you a very tiny bit extra on your fastball, but when it comes to other pitches, it's got more to do with talent than how hard you can throw it.

[vnodnarb]

Ya still have to know how to fool hitters and get outs. WIth that said I'm not so convinced that HGH etc is much more than a tool that pithers use to recover from injuries faster. It might give you a very tiny bit extra on your fastball, but when it comes to other pitches, it's got more to do with talent than how hard you can throw it.

I think you're right, add in fatigue though. It helps them recover quicker and be stronger on back to back outings.

[Jsh1284]

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about it, but that's definitely one of the other 'bonuses' if you want to call them that, of PEDs. I still wonder about the whole Meth thing that Grimsley brought up is all about. It hasn't been talked about much, but it could also be used to help a pitcher get a little extra when he's working on back to back nights for example.

[Hobbes]

There is a difference between HGH and steroids. While you are correct that the primary benefit of HGH is recovery from injuries, steroids are a different matter. They help build and develop muscle, as well as improving fast-twitch muscles which provide more explosive athletic movements. They are definitely beneficial to a pitcher, but I don't think they can have such a significant impact as to turn a mediocre pitcher into one who puts up numbers equivalent to Mariano Rivera.

[MSU Bulldog]

Outfielder Reed Johnson and the Toronto Blue Jays agreed Wednesday to a one-year contract worth $3,275,000. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7628104)

Damn, I guess we can take him off the prospective CF'er list. :rolleyes:

[McCarroll21]

Clement to the Cardinals (http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080103&content_id=2338616&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl)
The Cardinals' starting rotation received a possible boost on Thursday, when the club signed right-hander Matt Clement to a one-year deal with a club option for 2009.

The 33-year-old Clement missed the entire 2007 season while rehabbing from arthroscopic right shoulder surgery performed Sept. 26, 2006, and he has not appeared in a Major League contest since June 14, 2006, when he prematurely left his start at Minnesota with shoulder discomfort.....

With Carpenter already out for '08, how many starts before Clement joins him?

[BGarrett7]

Pretty much a move like the Padres going after Prior here. The rotation already has plenty of questions, may as well stockpile as many useful arms as you can get.

That said, I've always held Clement in the same vein as a Steve Trachsel, he's not going to be your top guy, but if you stick him at the back end of the rotation, he's gonna flourish. If he can be healthy, and that is how the Cards use him, it's at least a start. Not that they stand a chance in the NL Central anyways...

[MSU Bulldog]

Royals sign Nomo to minor league deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7636494)

[SamtheBravesFan]

Royals sign Nomo to minor league deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7636494)

Holy crap. Nomo has to have nothing left at this point. That being said, he still has amassed a very good baseball career.

[Jsh1284]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3182985&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

Broussard signs a 1 year, $3.85 Mil dollar deal with the Rangers. He's also got $150 G's in perfornance bonuses. He was already going to be there next year, but talk about a downgrade at first.

[Chief Knockahoma]

damn....the Mariners beat us to the punch on signing this Chris Reitsma fellow. something about him jumps out to me...:D

[SamtheBravesFan]

damn....the Mariners beat us to the punch on signing this Chris Reitsma fellow. something about him jumps out to me...:D

Did they re-up him AGAIN?! :eek:

[MPH]

damn....the Mariners beat us to the punch on signing this Chris Reitsma fellow. something about him jumps out to me...:D

This just sad:

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[MSU Bulldog]

something about him jumps out to me...:D

an inflamed elbow. :p

[McCarroll21]

Easy guys... they signed him to a minor league deal. Nothing major; just giving him a shot to get healthy and help them out a little, I guess.

[MSU Bulldog]

Cubs ink Lieber to 1-year deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7683658)

[shropshire77]

Cubs ink Lieber to 1-year deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7683658)

getin back to the roots where he earned that contract with the yanks huh?

[JCStone7]

Tigers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3199511) re-sign Nate Roberston.

[JCStone7]

Rangers sign Byrd (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3200020)

[McCarroll21]

Rangers sign Jason Jennings; 1 year, $4 million (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3200182)

[JCStone7]

Matt Holliday avoids arbitration (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3202974).

[JCStone7]

Rays re-sign Carlos Pena (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/01/18/rays.penA.ap/index.html).

[JCStone7]

Rockies close to re-signing Troy Tulowitzki (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3205453)

Also Reds sign Jeremy Affeldt (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3205507)

[JCStone7]

White Sox agree on deal with Octavio Dotel (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3207135)

[Corvette]

the Red Sox signed our buddy Dan Kolb

[MPH]

the Red Sox signed our buddy Dan Kolb
Oh boy, the Red Sox bullpen is really hurting if they have to sign Kolb to improve it.

[Chief Knockahoma]

Oh boy, the Red Sox bullpen is really hurting if they have to sign Kolb to improve it.

http://www.bagofhell.com/kolbcooler.jpg

[BGarrett7]

After Gagne last year, anything would be an improvement.

[C-Dawg]

the Red Sox signed our buddy Dan Kolb

Well, he showed that he couldn't handle playing in a pressure cooker like Atlanta, but he should be just fine in bean town :rolleyes:

[C-Dawg]

After Gagne last year, anything would be an improvement.

Wow....that's called painting with a broad brush ;)

[BraveMan]

Phillies have signed Feliz to play 3B.
source: www.espn.com (http://www.espn.com)

Real good glove with some pop and could be a good fit in that park.

[McCarroll21]

I was wondering how long it would take for Feliz to find a place to play. He should have won the Gold Glove at 3B last year. His bat has been in a bit of regression over the last few years, but if any park can help an offensive player find his stroke again ... Citizen Bank is right there at the top of them.

[BGarrett7]

Phillies have signed Feliz to play 3B.
source: www.espn.com (http://www.espn.com)For a guy who has already posted a career 198 isoSLG on the road, moving to Citizens Bank Ballpark is going to be huge.

[GrandMasterB]

Excellent signing for the Phillies. Third base has been a weak spot for them over the past few years, so he should be able to solidify that for them and slide into the bottom part of the lineup. Wouldn't surprise me to see him approach thirty home runs in that park.

[McCarroll21]

Blake avoids arbitration, signs one year deal with Indians (http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2008/02/indians_sign_casey_blake_to_on.html)

[CB1]

Not a bad deal for Blake.

[C-Dawg]

Not a bad deal for Blake.

Damn I thought Jeff Blake was done when the 'Aints cut him a few years back :p

[CB1]

Sean Casey signs one year deal with Red Sox.

Really like this signing. Casey's perfect on that team.

[JCStone7]

Where are they going to put him?

[CB1]

Backup 1B.

[McCarroll21]

Where are they going to put him?
Bench, spell Youk and/or Lowell with Youk going to third. They only spent $700K on him. I'd like to be able to have him on our bench.

[CB1]

Any chance we sign Julio again?

[MSU Bulldog]

Any chance we sign Julio again?

There's already one no-hit 1B in Thorman.

Diaz also can play some 1B. That Mark guy doesn't take a lot of time off.

I hear we need another beer vendor for when Stoney attends games, maybe he's worth a look.

[JCStone7]

I hear we need another beer vendor for when Stoney attends games, maybe he's worth a look.

:bow::beer::cool::nod:

[CB1]

I'd still like Julio's experience and 50th birthday to be apart of the team.

[GrandMasterB]

I'd still like Julio's experience and 50th birthday to be apart from the team.

Fixed that for ya. ;)

Julio's a good guy to have around the clubhouse and all, but his time has passed. There's no way he'd be able to get regular at-bats behind Teixeira and he probably wouldn't even be the first guy off the bench in most games. If they want to bring him back as some kind of coach, that's fine, but his playing days should be over.

[McCarroll21]

Padres, Khalil Greene close to contract (http://www.baseballtalkonline.com/2008/02/02/padres-greene-close-on-contract/). They're working on a one or two year deal.

[JCStone7]

Rays sign Hinske (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3235586)

[vnodnarb]

Right-hander Tony Armas agreed to a minor league contract with the New York Mets on Monday. Armas would get a one-year contract paying $1 million while in the majors and $90,000 in the minors. He also could make $350,000 in performance bonuses if used as a reliever and $650,000 based on innings, starting with 130.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/02/11/mets_0212.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21

Might as well, you can never have too many cheap options for the rotation as has been said a million times on here.

[BF91]

Check out mlbtraderumors. Twins just inked Livan Hernandez.

[JCStone7]

Pirates sign Mientkiewicz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3241471) to minor league deal.

[JCStone7]

Brandon Phillips agrees to long-term deal.

http://www.baseballtalkonline.com/2008/02/15/brandon-phillips-cincinnati-reds-agree-to-long-term-deal/

[MSU Bulldog]

Fogg signs with Reds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/02/21/heyman.fogg/index.html)

[McCarroll21]

Have we added Chacon to the Astros? Well.. it happened yesterday, I think. One year, $2 million.

Trot Nixon signs minor league deal with Dbacks (http://www.baseballtalkonline.com/?p=155).
Byung-Hyun Kim to Pirates (http://www.baseballtalkonline.com/?p=148).

[BGarrett7]

Don't quite get why the D'backs would even invite Trot to camp with the OF depth they have.

[McCarroll21]

Don't quite get why the D'backs would even invite Trot to camp with the OF depth they have.
Left handed bat on the bench while Chad Tracy gets the time he needs to come back from his microfracture surgery. They spent days talking to him trying to make sure he'd accept going back to the minors when Tracy was ready to return.

He played some first base in his tryout for a few teams.

[BGarrett7]

Left handed bat on the bench while Chad Tracy gets the time he needs to come back from his microfracture surgery. They spent days talking to him trying to make sure he'd accept going back to the minors when Tracy was ready to return.

He played some first base in his tryout for a few teams.Eh, they've already got Jeff Salazar.