Should Glavine and Smoltz be platooned?

[bgarcia]

I, personally, have never heard of starting pitchers being platooned. However, in this case, it may work out.

Glavine and Smoltz are old. We can not continue to expect Smoltzie to be run out there every 4-5 days. He is in terrific shape, but age is age.

What if Glavine could be signed to a smaller contract that would allow the Braves to rotate the two pitchers? The "off" guy could stay at home during road trips. Both pitchers could give their arms a rest after every start and hopefully last 7-8 innings per start. Both would be better rested for the eventual playoff race at the end of the season.

I admit that the idea is very unorthodox, but it could work.

[Corvette]

I, personally, have never heard of starting pitchers being platooned. However, in this case, it may work out.

Glavine and Smoltz are old. We can not continue to expect Smoltzie to be run out there every 4-5 days. He is in terrific shape, but age is age.

What if Glavine could be signed to a smaller contract that would allow the Braves to rotate the two pitchers? The "off" guy could stay at home during road trips. Both pitchers could give their arms a rest after every start and hopefully last 7-8 innings per start. Both would be better rested for the eventual playoff race at the end of the season.

I admit that the idea is very unorthodox, but it could work.
I don't think there's a chance this would ever happen, especially with Smoltz getting paid $14 million. From a pitching standpoint, they would be completely out of rythm pitching every 10th day. We pitch Smoltz every 5th day because he wins games, if he could, we'd pitch him every 3rd or 4th.

[JCStone7]

I, personally, have never heard of starting pitchers being platooned. However, in this case, it may work out.

Glavine and Smoltz are old. We can not continue to expect Smoltzie to be run out there every 4-5 days. He is in terrific shape, but age is age.

What if Glavine could be signed to a smaller contract that would allow the Braves to rotate the two pitchers? The "off" guy could stay at home during road trips. Both pitchers could give their arms a rest after every start and hopefully last 7-8 innings per start. Both would be better rested for the eventual playoff race at the end of the season.

I admit that the idea is very unorthodox, but it could work.

It isn't unorthodox it's just flat out crazy. You don't invest 16 million in two pitchers and have them 3 or 4 innings every 5 days. You want pitching platoons watch the rookie leagues.

[MSU Bulldog]

Damn!

just,

Damn!

[absintheofmalaise]

I, personally, have never heard of starting pitchers being platooned. However, in this case, it may work out.

Glavine and Smoltz are old. We can not continue to expect Smoltzie to be run out there every 4-5 days. He is in terrific shape, but age is age.

What if Glavine could be signed to a smaller contract that would allow the Braves to rotate the two pitchers? The "off" guy could stay at home during road trips. Both pitchers could give their arms a rest after every start and hopefully last 7-8 innings per start. Both would be better rested for the eventual playoff race at the end of the season.

I admit that the idea is very unorthodox, but it could work.
There's a reason that you've never heard of it. It is a stupid idea.

[vnodnarb]

I'm just waiting for BGarrett's response...

[JCStone7]

I'm just waiting for BGarrett's response...

:nod:

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

I was gonna say something, but you guys all beat me to it with exactly what I was going to say...

[ifthenwouldi]

Props for creative thinking.

[McCarroll21]

Well, you see... If you have them throw every 8-10 days, that hurts their arm worse. Smoltz would rather pitch on every fourth day so his arm stays in shape. If you back that up to once every two weeks, that's damn near absurd.

[JayDonnelly10]

Where did this thought even come from? I dont think ive ever heard anyone want to not use our Ace pitcher every fifth day but using im once every 10 days.....yeah hes getting old but hes getting better with age

Smoltzie has proven he can handle the workload....yeah people say Glavine showed signs of fatigue down the stretch but he is still a decent #3/#4 guy who can pitch every 5th day and give you 6 innings which is more than we are getting out of Chuck James

[Rynliquid]

I would rather sign Hulk Hogan and have him hump the ball to the plate than risk seeing Cormaryleyes pitch twice as much as two HOFers.

[BGarrett7]

You rang?

Let's look at some numbers over the past three seasons...

Normal Rest

Smoltz
71 GS
45-26 (.634)
6.75 IP/GS
3.19 RA
1.13 WHIP
38 HR Allowed
7.85 K/9

Glavine
52 GS
31-21 (.596)
6.04 IP/GS
4.39 RA
1.40 WHIP
31 HR Allowed
5.07 K/9

5+ Days Rest

Smoltz
29 GS
15-14 (.517)
6.49 IP/GS
4.01 RA
1.27 WHIP
21 HR Allowed
7.6 K/9

Glavine
47 GS
26-21 (.553)
6.29 IP/GS
3.99 RA
1.35 WHIP
26 HR Allowed
4.51 K/9

Keep in mind the majority of the starts for both in the 5+ days rest section is primarily on five, six or seven days rest -- a far cry from the eight to ten days you are calling for.

Game. Set. Match.

EDIT: One more thing...

Smoltz made about $30K per start over this time span. Glavine made about $24.7K per start.

Smoltz will jump up to $14M for next season, and -- for shits and giggles -- let's pencil Glavine in for around $8M.

Between the two the past three seasons, they averaged 66 starts combined. If we combined them into one spot in the rotation, they'd probably be able to pull about 40 starts combined, or twenty starts each. That would bump Smoltz up to $70K per start, and Glavine up to $40K per.

So, you'd be paying more money for less production. Yeah, that's a great idea.

[JCStone7]

As always BGarrett with the TKO :fight:

Rumble young man, rumble!

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

As always BGarrett with the TKO :fight:

Rumble young man, rumble!


I'll 2nd that :bow::beer:

[JayDonnelly10]

Very nice stats to prove this crazy theory wrong....good work BGarrett

[McCarroll21]

I would rather sign Hulk Hogan and have him hump the ball to the plate than risk seeing Cormaryleyes pitch twice as much as two HOFers.
I think this post sums up how ridiculous it is.

You have the potential to have Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine on the staff and you're going to shorten that to Hudson and then Smoltz/Glavine depending on who's turn it is?

You're worried about their arms tiring out? They may be getting older but Smoltz has made over 30 starts and gone over 200 innings for the last three years (since returning from the bullpen).

Glavine has made 30 starts in every full season (those not shortened by a strike) that he's been in the league except 1989, when he made 29. He's gone over 200 innings in every full season since 1990 except for 183 innings in 2003 (his first season in New York) and 198 innings in 2006.

For some reason, I don't think these guys are the arms we need to worry about. I'll take the risk of their arm falling off over worrying about when Chuck James, Lance Cormier, and Buddy Carlyle will implode.

[milbraves]

Worst... idea... EVER!:nod:

[GrandMasterB]

Hmm....yeah, let's have Smoltz and Glavine platoon and be in basically the same spot we were in this year with the rest of the rotation. Good idea. :rolleyes:

[McCarroll21]

I'm going to throw in something else that I don't think has been said yet in this thread...

We don't have Glavine so, at this point, this is as much irrelevant as it is dumb.

[ifthenwouldi]

I think some of you are taking this suggestion way too seriously. I'm not even sure the original poster took him/herself that seriously.

[McCarroll21]

I, personally, have never heard of starting pitchers being platooned. However, in this case, it may work out. .... I admit that the idea is very unorthodox, but it could work.

I think some of you are taking this suggestion way too seriously. I'm not even sure the original poster took him/herself that seriously.You sure?

[Hobbes]

I can't believe there has been 3 pages of response to a proposal that required none.

[PeytonAllen]

But you've already gone on record as saying it's a done deal. That we shouldn't question IF it will happen.

Now, "we don't have him yet, so it's a dumb idea to talk about?"

;)

[ifthenwouldi]

You sure?

Yes, re-read that quote. Not exactly a lot of confidence in that statement.

[Blain34]

I'm sorry bgarcia for you even taking the time to post this.

[milbraves]

We don't have Glavine so, at this point, this is as much irrelevant as it is dumb.

No, but we have your set-in-stone, personal guarantee that he'll be back.

[McCarroll21]

No, but we have your set-in-stone, personal guarantee that he'll be back.
But he's not back YET which is the reason my post included these three words: at. this. point.

[cjones1999]

Moderator, i think there is some trash to take out.

**edited out all the stuff that can be found in other places in the thread**

-- McCarroll21

[McCarroll21]

Moderator, i think there is some trash to take out.
You've already had two weeks.

[gobravez]

You've already had two weeks.

LMAO

[BGarrett7]

You've already had two weeks.:lol:

Classic!