Turning Point

[SCchief]

could the 9th inning of todays game been the turning point for the Braves (what we need really bad) and the beggining of the end for Phillies, I know this is really high hope, and that it is only one game, but think about it

[KB 34]

Let's see, this breaks the Phillies back, Willie's catch broke the Mets, shouldn't the Braves be division champs right now? Oh wait, one game is one game and the Braves have a hard time winning more than 1 at a time.

[SCchief]

Let's see, this breaks the Phillies back, Willie's catch broke the Mets, shouldn't the Braves be division champs right now? Oh wait, one game is one game and the Braves have a hard time winning more than 1 at a time.


You are right! no point in arguing, but there could be the smallest little chance that it could have been today

[GrandMasterB]

We're still 7.5 back. Unless we play like the '27 Yankees and the Mets just absolutely fall apart, there's not much of a chance. Don't get me wrong, it was a great win, but it came a little too late.

[jdu00743]

Don't we have a better shot at the WC than the division?

[C-Dawg]

A day late and a dollar short.

[GrandMasterB]

Don't we have a better shot at the WC than the division?

Not really. We may be closer as far as the number of games back goes, but there are more teams to climb over. With so many teams ahead of us, it's almost a guarantee that one or more of them will be winning every day.

[BGarrett7]

Don't we have a better shot at the WC than the division?Braves are 7.5 GB in the East, 6.0 GB in the Wildcard.

Thing is, they are going to need six other teams to absolutely collapse if they are going to make the playoffs. Every team ahead of the Braves right now, outside of Arizona, has played .500+ ball over the last two weeks.

[McCarroll21]

Had today happened in June or July, it could be a turning point. It's hard to turn your season around when you're 7.5 back in September.

I do think this is the end of the Phillies though. Losing twice in four or five games after having a 5+ run lead will kill the morale of that clubhouse.

[jdu00743]

Not really. We may be closer as far as the number of games back goes, but there are more teams to climb over. With so many teams ahead of us, it's almost a guarantee that one or more of them will be winning every day.


Braves are 7.5 GB in the East, 6.0 GB in the Wildcard.

Thing is, they are going to need six other teams to absolutely collapse if they are going to make the playoffs. Every team ahead of the Braves right now, outside of Arizona, has played .500+ ball over the last two weeks.

Yall are probably right, but BP gives us a much better % chance of getting the WC than getting the East.

If (hate that word :D) we go something like 18-5 over the last 23, I think we get in...Maybe even 17-6.

[GrandMasterB]

Yall are probably right, but BP gives us a much better % chance of getting the WC than getting the East.

If (hate that word :D) we go something like 18-5 over the last 23, I think we get in...Maybe even 17-6.

Problem with that theory is, how many times have we had a stretch like that this year? None that I can think of. We have enough trouble winning two in a row, let alone a good stretch like that.

[BGarrett7]

If (hate that word :D) we go something like 18-5 over the last 23, I think we get in...Maybe even 17-6.An 17-5 finish would put the Braves at 88-74 for the season. Meaning, no other Wildcard eligible team in the NL could have more than 87 wins.

Here's the absolute worst that the other teams in the NL could do in order to ensure the Braves won the Wildcard:

San Diego: 11-13
Arizona: 10-12
Los Angeles: 14-10
Philadelphia: 14-9
Colorado: 15-9
Milwaukee: 17-7
St. Louis: 19-8

Sure, right now, the Rockies, Brewers and Cards all posting those records to finish the season are just about as likely as us doing the exact same.

But really, what are the chances of the Pads, Dbacks, Dodgers and Phils all completely falling off and not being able to at least post a near .500 record the rest of the way.

[731BravesFan]

An 17-5 finish would put the Braves at 88-74 for the season. Meaning, no other Wildcard eligible team in the NL could have more than 87 wins.

Here's the absolute worst that the other teams in the NL could do in order to ensure the Braves won the Wildcard:

San Diego: 11-13
Arizona: 10-12
Los Angeles: 14-10
Philadelphia: 14-9
Colorado: 15-9
Milwaukee: 17-7
St. Louis: 19-8

Sure, right now, the Rockies, Brewers and Cards all posting those records to finish the season are just about as likely as us doing the exact same.

But really, what are the chances of the Pads, Dbacks, Dodgers and Phils all completely falling off and not being able to at least post a near .500 record the rest of the way.
I can see it happening to the Dbacks and Dodgers.. not too sure about Arizona falling off that bad though.

[BGarrett7]

How do we fare? (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6595)

[IkeWagner]

There were many points this season where we thought we had come upon a "turning point." This is another one of those points; destined to mean nothing. Heightened morale won't save us; we don't have the starting pitching.

[Hobbes]

Momentum in baseball only lasts until your next game.