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Zack
05-29-2007, 12:54 PM
Big Teams, Big Stars, Atlanta Braves...little stars?
By: Zack (http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/member.php?u=231) | Braves-Nation.com

The idea of teams such as the Boston Red Sox or the New York Yankees being obligated to win the World Series just because of who they are, and the stars they have on their team has become quite an annoyance in the baseball world.

Take a look at the Red Sox roster: Lugo, Crisp, Manny, Ortiz, JD Drew, Lowell, Varitek, Schilling, Beckett, Matsuzaka, the list could go on. On a regular trip through the Red Sox lineup, you could ask any fan, not necessarily just of the Boston Red Sox, but any true fan of Major League Baseball, and they would at least be familiar with these guys. It works the same way with the New York Yankees: A-rod, Jeter, Giambi, Abreu, Damon, Matsui, Mussina, Pettite, and now the recent addition of Clemens. Again, most any baseball fan would be familiar with these names.

Take a look at recent World Series winners like the 2006 Cardinals, the 2005 White Sox, and the 2004 Red Sox, all of whom baseball fans could enjoy seeing stars play the series, even if their favorite team wasn't playing.

Now take a look at the Braves, sure every team has their stars, and so do the Braves: Chipper, Andruw, McCann, Francoeur, Renteria, Smoltz, Hudson; but does this team measure up to the overrated, star caliber of other teams? What kind of ratings and fan involvement would the World Series get when the Braves have Chris Woodward? Martin Prado? Matt Diaz? Scott Thorman? stepping up to the plate. The fans would say, "who?" Is there any one player in the Braves lineup that the opposing fans cringe when he walks to the plate? I'm here to say it, no. There is no David Ortiz, there is no Manny Ramirez, there is no A-rod, there is no Pujols. The Braves have streaky Andruw and Francoeur, injury pleagued Chipper, and maybe a consistent but a non-power threat in Renteria and McCann. When any fan's team plays the Yankees or Red Sox, they cringe, start biting their nails, tapping their feat, or begin any other nervous habit when they see their pitcher opposing A-rod, or Big Papi, or Manny. The Braves simply do not have that kind of stardom.

Though the media, such as ESPN, and "bandwagon baseball fans" seem to overrate the importance of having these kinds of stars in an everyday lineup is necessary to win, recent history has shown us this is not the case. The New York Yankees are 13.5 games back, and have the same record as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, yes, the DEVIL RAYS! The Boston Red Sox, however, are the best team, and most feared team in baseball, and rightfully so. However, with the extreme differences in these two teams performances on the field, yet the similarities in the star-caliber players, these two teams receive the same amount of media coverage.

If the Braves and Yankees were in the same division, the Yankees would be about 7.5 games behind the Braves, yet, the Braves do not get the same kind of press coverage. The Braves do not get the same publicity. The Braves don't get the long stories on ESPN. To be honest, who cares? This leads to show that the baseball media world has turned in to not how well you play, but who you are, and who you have. Now, does the lack of all of these things manipulate the team's ability to win the World Series? Absolutely not. But don't be surprised if and when the Braves make it to the big show and get to the 6th spot in the lineup and on, fans are saying, "who?"

McCarroll21
05-29-2007, 01:10 PM
Good article Zack.

If the Braves and Yankees were in the same division, the Yankees would be about 7.5 games behind the Braves, yet, the Braves do not get the same kind of press coverage. The Braves do not get the same publicity. The Braves don't get the long stories on ESPN. To be honest, who cares?This is my favorite part. You're entirely correct in that no one should really care. It would be nice, if we've seen anything from the demise of the Yankees is the importance of role players. When they were winning the World Series, they had guys like Scott Brosius playing big roles. Now they're star-studded from top to bottom and can't win. They have all the resources to go out and field the best team ever, but due to unwise spending, they've even tapped themselves out.

The Red Sox have that role player in Kevin Youkilis.

The Mets have a large payroll, but their spending has not been as absurd as the Yankees and their money isn't the reason they win, it's the proper spending and bringing in guys like Reyes and Wright through their system.

Then you have teams like the A's, Twins, Tigers, Cardinals, and Braves that can win without having huge payrolls. They may not be small in comparison to the Devil Rays and Royals, but these aren't the teams that go out and make big splashes in Free Agency but have become consistent winners.

Basically, who cares if your guys have the star appeal of others. No one even knows who Matt Diaz is on the national scene, but if Game 7 of the NLCS comes down to Billy Wagner vs. Matt Diaz with the winning or go ahead run on second base, I'd like my chances.

brnt247
06-08-2007, 02:14 PM
Who cares is right. The Braves have always been a team that brings up good talent and usually buys smart in free agency. You hardly see a blockbuster player come to the Braves and I would want it no other way. If the Braves make the world series and they get to the #6 hole, trust me the knowledgable baseball fans will know who's there, and just because we don't spend millions on over the hill players doesn't mean that real baseball fans don't know who the players on the Braves are.

ttiger2004
06-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Looking at the Yankees then looking at the Braves. Yankees Payroll is over 200 Million and the Braves isn't even busting 90 Million, yet the Braves are just 1.5 out of the lead.

We might not have the "BIG" name stars on our team, like a Jeter or A-Rod but I will take my chances with guys like McCann, Frenchy, Chipper and Renteria. Throw in KJ, Thorman and possibly AJ if he turns it around after the All Star Break. We got some good young talent on the bench in Salty and Yunel. Our LF Platoon is working just fine.

Big Stars don't always get the job done as shown by getting swept earlier in the season by the Red Sox, as were the Yankees. Our little stars just took the 1st game of a 3 game series from this same Red Sox team and two of our "little stars" aren't even hitting good.

Money can buy you top notch talent but it is what you do with that talent once you get it, is what will matter. JS doesn't go out and make that blockbuster trade, he goes out and gets what he believes will help the team win. He made two key trades this past off season to shore up the bullpen, not given up very much, Horacio Ramirez and Adam LaRoche to get Soriano and Gonzo. Ramirez is struggling and on the DL, I believe and Rochey is struggling as usual. Soriano has been lights out for us and Gonzo is out for the season but I can bet he will return stronger than ever.

You can spend to your hearts content but you have to get it done in order to win those championships.

Jizzlle1025
11-14-2007, 08:47 PM
itz a shame we didnt win da penant we can only blame da starting pitching (after smotlz & hudson they did a great job diz year especially hudson giving up less than 10hrs diz year)but james reyes redman cormier did a horiable job

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