Chris Burke???

[lavell12]

The Astros have sent him to AAA, and he could be a useful guy off of the bench who can play either 2B or the outfield. What do you guys think?

[vnodnarb]

and just when your rep got to a respectful level

[lavell12]

I just checked his stats and they aren't impressive but if we gave Houston not much, he might be an up grade over Woodward and Orr.

[BGarrett7]

So, because the Astros inexplicably sent him to AAA, this somehow means that he is on the market? While this move does make no sense at all, I hardly think it is evidence of Houston giving up on Burke.

And I could never cheer for the one player who single handedly caused me the most emotional pain as a Braves fan in the past decade.

[FalconPride]

We have plenty of upgrades in-house. The Astros have an average offense and they had no use for him. He's a pretty shoddy defender as well. The Astros finally let the memory of his 18th inning homer go to send him down.

[Zack]

We have plenty of upgrades in-house. The Astros have an average offense and they had no use for him. He's a pretty shoddy defender as well. The Astros finally let the memory of his 18th inning homer go to send him down.

Agreed. We have plenty of depth in the organization for a middle infielder, and why have ANOTHER outfielder when we have Harris and Diaz? If it doesn't work out with Woodward or Orr, we have options.

[BGarrett7]

But... But... But... It's a trade!

[AtlFan7]

Chris Woodward is doing just fine in my opinion. But we could always use an upgrade where Pete Orr is concerned. Prado would be my first option before going outside of the organization.

[GrandMasterB]

I just checked his stats and they aren't impressive but if we gave Houston not much, he might be an up grade over Woodward and Orr.

Exactly. Might be. But there's no guarantee of that. Our bench is just fine right now. Orr and Woodward are getting the job done. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[BGarrett7]

But we could always use an upgrade where Pete Orr is concerned.I love how everyone is so quick to throw Orr under the bus for no reason. He does more than an adequate job given his position on the team.

[Jsh1284]

So, because the Astros inexplicably sent him to AAA, this somehow means that he is on the market? While this move does make no sense at all, I hardly think it is evidence of Houston giving up on Burke.

And I could never cheer for the one player who single handedly caused me the most emotional pain as a Braves fan in the past decade.

Exactly! Hopefully JS checks to see if Jim Leyritz needs a coaching job while he's at it ...

[vnodnarb]

Exactly! Hopefully JS checks to see if Jim Leyritz needs a coaching job while he's at it ...

no, lets give kevin brown a tryout to be our 5th starter

[AtlFan7]

I love how everyone is so quick to throw Orr under the bus for no reason. He does more than an adequate job given his position on the team.

I'm not throwing him underneath the bus. I'm just saying that there is room for improvement where Pete is concerned. And that we have a number of options in the minors, starting with Prado. Prado is a much better all around player than Orr, is he not?

And while we're at it let's do something about Craig Wilson.....sheesh !!

Our bench is okay, but certainly not great.

[BGarrett7]

I'm not throwing him underneath the bus. I'm just saying that there is room for improvement where Pete is concerned. And that we have a number of options in the minors, starting with Prado. Prado is a much better all around player than Orr, is he not?But the thing about Prado is he is getting quality playing time in Richmond right now. He's a kid who actually has a future as a starter if he continues to mature as a player -- maybe not with us, but somewhere. Bottomline, he isn't just someone who is replacement level, which is essentially what Orr's spot on the team is. Anyone who is better than Petey is going to be starting somewhere, and anyone worse, is, well, doing the same thing on a worse team or in the minors. He is never going to be an everyday player, and fits perfectly into the role he has been given right now -- speedy LH bench player who can play multiple positions. Right now, the only real improvement over Orr that could possibly be made is if someone who can hit from both sides of the plate fell into our laps.

[Jsh1284]

no, lets give kevin brown a tryout to be our 5th starter

Livan might be availible, too.

[vnodnarb]

But the thing about Prado is he is getting quality playing time in Richmond right now. He's a kid who actually has a future as a starter if he continues to mature as a player -- maybe not with us, but somewhere. Bottomline, he isn't just someone who is replacement level, which is essentially what Orr's spot on the team is. Anyone who is better than Petey is going to be starting somewhere, and anyone worse, is, well, doing the same thing on a worse team or in the minors. He is never going to be an everyday player, and fits perfectly into the role he has been given right now -- speedy LH bench player who can play multiple positions. Right now, the only real improvement over Orr that could possibly be made is if someone who can hit from both sides of the plate fell into our laps.

thats the key and the main reason we don't put our top 25 players on our ML roster only so many guys out of that 25 get enough playing time

[MSU Bulldog]

First of all, Wilie Harris is filling the IF/OF role quite nicely right now. Burke's is terrible in a lineup that is terrible.

Second, why would we waste Prado in a reserve players capacity. This has been gone over much in the same for everyone who wants Cormier in long relief.

Reserve/bench players are exactly that. They are not supposed to be on the same talent level as starters or guess what, they would be starting. Orr is an adequate reserve player.

[DanielW4444]

I like Orr, he is the definition of a good Utility player. He can play just about all of the positions. He can hit when needed and he can also be a good pinch runner when need.

[McCarroll21]

Orr is perfect for his role. Would Prado or Escobar make the bench look more sexy? Sure. But the problem with that is that you're hindering development.

Look at Salty. He's with the big club right now and has gotten 14 plate appearances since May 2, and he's probably getting more than a player in a different position would get because he's a catcher and McCann is banged up a little.

You don't take good players and stick them on the bench when you don't have to. Just because a player is in the top 13 in your positional ranking of players throughout the organization doesn't mean he is going to get a spot, same theory as taking Matt Harrison and sticking him in long relief. Just because they're better, doesn't mean that's how they need to be used.

Case in point: Ryan Howard of 2004/first part of 2005.

[TheMatrix31]

Wait, wait, wait....

Chris Burke?! Chris f'n Burke?!

You seriously want THAT GUY on this team? For shame. That is sacrelige.

[Adam's Army]

Wait, wait, wait....

Chris Burke?! Chris f'n Burke?!

You seriously want THAT GUY on this team? For shame. That is sacrelige.

indeed, especially when we have plenty of options in our system. at this point im not worried about finding our 5th starter, somebody will claim the job. at least were hopefully done with redman

[GrandMasterB]

indeed, especially when we have plenty of options in our system. at this point im not worried about finding our 5th starter, somebody will claim the job. at least were hopefully done with redman

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Chris Burke is not a pitcher. He's a 2B/OF.

[C-Dawg]

And I could never cheer for the one player who single handedly caused me the most emotional pain as a Braves fan in the past decade.

Burke may be the worst moment in the last decade, but overall wHich was worse...Burke or Leyritz? To me, the Burke thing sucked but I had basically accepted that we'd prolly lose by the time it happened...or at least I was numb to it altogether. But the Leyritz homerun was like watching your dog run out into the road and get run over...I don't know any other way to describe how profoundly that moment affected me....you think you have the whole thing pretty much locked up, and watch it all slip away in that one moment....and you just knew it when it happened.

[McCarroll21]

For me, Burke's was more heartbreaking because I was sitting there on edge for what seemed like forever. We played an entire game where one pitch could have ended the game, it finally did, but it was like every pitch was the ball game for 9 innings.

[BGarrett7]

For me, Burke's was more heartbreaking because I was sitting there on edge for what seemed like forever. We played an entire game where one pitch could have ended the game, it finally did, but it was like every pitch was the ball game for 9 innings.Exactly. In terms of being absolutely draining -- emotionally, physically and mentally -- it is Burke all the way.