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lavell12
04-26-2007, 02:04 AM
I heard a rumor, I think on the radio. The Red Sox and Braves are talking about a deal that would send Joel Pienero to the Braves in exchange for Tyler Yates.

BGarrett7
04-26-2007, 02:07 AM
The only reference I can find of it on the net is here (http://www.mlb-trade-rumors.com/rumors.htm):

April 14 2007
Boston try to trade Joel Pineiro to the Braves for Tyler Yates. Bobby Cox try to make that move.

Another trade in Atlanta is Langerhans and Yates for Carl Crawford.

Given what it was mentioned with, and the other rumors listed on that site, I'd say it has about as likely a chance of happening as I have of hitting a walk-off homer for the Braves tomorrow.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 02:11 AM
Okay that isn't where I heard it, I didn't think so but I was seeing if it had any legs?

Link didn't work what is the source?

grafe
04-26-2007, 05:45 AM
Living in Washington I've seen my fair share of Joel Pineiro and let me tell you I would much rather have Mark Redman

lmartin6
04-26-2007, 07:55 AM
I'd say it has about as likely a chance of happening as I have of hitting a walk-off homer for the Braves tomorrow.

You finally got the call-up!?!?

BravePiKapp
04-26-2007, 01:10 PM
Another trade in Atlanta is Langerhans and Yates for Carl Crawford.

Haha, only in our wildest dreams....

C-Dawg
04-26-2007, 02:16 PM
I heard that JS is trying to lure Robert Nen out of retirement.

C-Dawg
04-26-2007, 04:59 PM
Here's a real rumor:

Sitting pretty
Atlanta is sitting pretty on the trade front. The Braves have the best catching prospect in baseball in Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who is having a monster start at Double-A Mississippi.
What it means is that Saltalamacchia soon enough is either going to beat out current Braves catcher Brian McCann, which isn't likely for obvious reasons, or the Braves will pull a position-switch with McCann or Saltalamacchia.
The other option is to trade one of the, two with Saltalamacchia looming as the more likely bet there.
Three-quarters of the teams in baseball -- a conservative estimate -- are looking for young catching, the Tigers included.
The Tigers have been trying since at least last year to trade for a legitimate catching prospect. Their problem: everyone else has the same needs, and good young catchers are scarcer than at any time in memory.

BGarrett7
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Which is exactly why we need to strike while the iron is still hot with Salty and get a king's ransom for him. He is so much more valuable to us as trade-bait than he ever could be on the field.

gobravez
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Here's a real rumor:

Sitting pretty
Atlanta is sitting pretty on the trade front. The Braves have the best catching prospect in baseball in Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who is having a monster start at Double-A Mississippi.
What it means is that Saltalamacchia soon enough is either going to beat out current Braves catcher Brian McCann, which isn't likely for obvious reasons, or the Braves will pull a position-switch with McCann or Saltalamacchia.
The other option is to trade one of the, two with Saltalamacchia looming as the more likely bet there.
Three-quarters of the teams in baseball -- a conservative estimate -- are looking for young catching, the Tigers included.
The Tigers have been trying since at least last year to trade for a legitimate catching prospect. Their problem: everyone else has the same needs, and good young catchers are scarcer than at any time in memory.


Is there a link?

Chief Knockahoma
04-26-2007, 05:09 PM
Which is exactly why we need to strike while the iron is still hot with Salty and get a king's ransom for him. He is so much more valuable to us as trade-bait than he ever could be on the field.

I agree. with him being red hot at the plate (at least the last time i saw, he was) and everyone needing young catchers...do it JS! but do it for some players of worth!

GrandMasterB
04-26-2007, 05:11 PM
That'd be great if we could pull off a deal with the Tigers. They have plenty of good young pitching that we could go after.

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 05:22 PM
We can't "Marte" Salty. We either have to trade him while he's got his peak value or find room for him on the team.

The Renteria trade has worked out so far because Edgar has been so good for us and Marte hasn't panned out, but we probably can't do that twice.

We have to use Salty to make us better, whether it's him at 1B or him being traded to get us some pitching help. Salty is more valuable than trading for a LF because we need someone that can hit 8th.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 05:33 PM
MLBTRADERUMORS.COM which I know isn't that reliable is talking about what possiblities the Braves have with trading salty. The teams mentioned were the Cubs for Zambrano, White Sox for Buehrle, and the Tigers for Robertson. With our salary concerns I think Robertson is the only possibility of those mentioned.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 05:35 PM
I think Salty needs to be packaged to get another legit starting pitcher. Our offense is good enough to have Diaz/Langy bat eighth.

Jsh1284
04-26-2007, 05:40 PM
I'll pass on Buehrle and Zambrano. We don't need a rental. If Salty IS dealt, we should definitely go after more young talent that'll help the team beyond this season.

Plus, if and when Andruw leaves via free agency, we'll regret not getting a middle of the order bat to replace his.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 05:45 PM
JS will always find a guy in the offseason to fill a hole. But I would like to keep Salty but the back end of the rotation is a real trouble spot even if Cormier is healthy.

Jsh1284
04-26-2007, 05:51 PM
I agree that the #4-#5 spots aren't looking too great right at the moment. It'd be nice to get a good young gun .. I mean, hell .. we should get more than a back of the rotation starter for the #1 catching prospect in baseball.

Vuchato
04-26-2007, 06:03 PM
As much as I'd love Zambrano, he'd never work on this team as long as we've got the Joneses. Buehrle, despite his no-no, I'm not a big fan. Nate is an old average pitcher. I'd pass on all of them. Baldelli was my first thought, and could be a real possibility. If the Tigers want him, they'll need to give up at least Bonderman. If the Cubs are really interested, perhaps we could get Pie. I'd like a young good starter or an outfielder.

MSU Bulldog
04-26-2007, 06:12 PM
As long as we're talking possibilities, how 'bout Homer Bailey? If we are gonna talk trade, we need to be talkin' young front line starter.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 06:13 PM
I really am not sure what to do with Salty but I agree with McCarroll on another thread when he said we have two options trade him soon or bring him up to the MLB. Even if he continues to mash to have in the minors for much longer and his value will drop.

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 06:13 PM
So, I'm going to merge this with the other rumor thread since it has turned into some Salty talk.

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 06:13 PM
Zambrano is getting an 85 million dollar plus contract, i'd rather keep Salty than spend more money on a pitcher

lavell12
04-26-2007, 06:16 PM
If we keep Salty I say we should bring him up and let him play first and put Thorman in LF platooning with Diaz.

dogmanx23
04-26-2007, 06:22 PM
doent Salty play LF,C, 1st? why not bring him up and see what we can do before trading him...

Jsh1284
04-26-2007, 06:35 PM
With this latest news about Cormier surfacing, I hope JS is on the phone trying to get something done right now.

C-Dawg
04-26-2007, 06:36 PM
doent Salty play LF,C, 1st? why not bring him up and see what we can do before trading him...

Because JS may not want to show his hand. If he comes up here and pulls a Langerfans, then we won't get as much. Although I do agree that if he has no real intention of trading Salty, I'd like to see him up here. I love the idea of Thorman in LF and Salty at 1B.

BTW, heres a link to the story: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070426/SPORTS0104/704260305/1129

DanielW4444
04-26-2007, 06:47 PM
Call me crazy but I think Salty will wind up in RF or LF next year if Andruw leaves. Francoeur will move to center and Salty will either get RF or they will put someone in RF and him in LF

lavell12
04-26-2007, 06:49 PM
With this latest news about Cormier surfacing, I hope JS is on the phone trying to get something done right now.

What is wrong with Cormier now?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 06:52 PM
What is wrong with Cormier now?
Do you look at the other threads here? He was scratched from his rehab start.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 06:54 PM
Do you look at the other threads here? He was scratched from his rehab start.

I checked the Cormier Thread but I must have missed it, we must now make a deal. We don't need a stud, how about for escobar and another prospect.

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 06:57 PM
I checked the Cormier Thread but I must have missed it, we must now make a deal. We don't need a stud, how about for escobar and another prospect.
It's actually in the News Feed threads. AJC just ran a story about it. Nothing known about it right now, he's just been scratched and is headed to Atlanta to see team doctors.

AtlFan7
04-26-2007, 07:00 PM
If we keep Salty I say we should bring him up and let him play first and put Thorman in LF platooning with Diaz.

Excellent idea....

It would be foolish to trade Salty at this particular point in time, especially since he could help strengthen our ballclub offensively. By moving Salty to first and Thorman to LF, we could effectively cover-up the two holes currently in our lineup with one move.

As for trading him (Salty) for a back-of-the-rotation starter, that is a non-starter for me. What we need is a very average starting pitcher who could at least give our team a chance to win every fifth day. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. And for this type of starter, I don't think we have to give up an elite prospect like Salty.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Damn Hampton now Cormier (who isn't that great to start with). I just don't seeing neither Davies or Redman being consistent none the less both of them.

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:07 PM
i say cox goes old school with it, bring up Matt Harrison and let him start now. i mean he can't do any worse than Redman

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Way to ruin a young arm by bringing him up when he's not ready just because "he couldn't be worse." There aren't any guarantees that he'd be better, but hey, whatever... he can't be worse so why not start the clock on him and ruin him. Was Joey Devine not enough?

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
I think everyone thinks Devine is ruined but he has been alot better since the homer given up against Houston.

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Way to ruin a young arm by bringing him up when he's not ready just because "he couldn't be worse." There aren't any guarantees that he'd be better, but hey, whatever... he can't be worse so why not start the clock on him and ruin him. Was Joey Devine not enough?

that's why i said old school... they did it with Glavine and Smoltzy, they're doing alright

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 07:19 PM
that's why i said old school... they did it with Glavine and Smoltzy, they're doing alright
When we weren't competing for anything. They had proven everything they could in the minors, but they had to take their lumps while pitching for a bad team. This isn't a bad team. There is no reason to throw a prospect out there to take lumps right now.

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:20 PM
When we weren't competing for anything. They had proven everything they could in the minors, but they had to take their lumps while pitching for a bad team. This isn't a bad team. There is no reason to throw a prospect out there to take lumps right now.

good point, i just don'w know if i can take another Redman start:wall:

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:21 PM
McCarroll do you really feel comfortable with Redman and Davies, right now?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 07:26 PM
McCarroll do you really feel comfortable with Redman and Davies, right now?
With the way their pitching right now? No. I don't think they'll keep being this bad though. It's not time to panic, and the answer certainly isn't calling up Harrison so he can take a beating too.

If I knew they were this bad and would keep pitching this poorly, I would be sending them out of town too. They aren't THIS bad though. We don't need much out of them, just consistency and keeping us in games.

We're going to have to wait another turn or two because 1) JS won't hit the panic button yet, and 2) there isn't any where we can go even if he did.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:27 PM
I agree with you on the second part but I don't know if they well be much better considering Davies whole career while short has been very similar to this.

McCarroll, how long would you give them to get their act together?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Probably two more turns before I really get worried.

Jsh1284
04-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Davies has showed signs of being a dominant pitcher, too. He's just been inconsistent.

I agree with Mc about Kyle. He'll get better. Can't say I'm too confident in Redman though.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:34 PM
I know we have talked about Jo-Jo Reyes and Harrison but is there anyone in AAA that could come up to spot start?

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:41 PM
Whatever happened to Anthony Lerew?

lavell12
04-26-2007, 07:43 PM
Lerew is in AAA Richmond, he has 3 starts covering 12.2 innings with
a 2.84ERA and 8Ks

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:45 PM
Wasn't he up in 2005 for a bit?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Lerew is mystifying. He could get the call and get shelled just like last year, then return right back to AAA and post an 0.50 ERA for two months, only to come up and get shelled again.

JCStone7
04-26-2007, 07:49 PM
Lerew is mystifying. He could get the call and get shelled just like last year, then return right back to AAA and post an 0.50 ERA for two months, only to come up and get shelled again.


so he's one of the 4A players

vnodnarb
04-26-2007, 07:58 PM
it seems lerew has pitched like 05 sosa so far this year,
lerew has given up 14 hits, 8 walks in 12.2 innings with a 2.84 ERA

BGarrett7
04-26-2007, 08:17 PM
Trey Hodges, anyone?

My guess is if anyone from Richmond gets the call to come up to the big club, it's him.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 10:17 PM
I agree with you it will be someone like Hodges who has had some experience and isn't considered a top prospect.

MSU Bulldog
04-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Trey Hodges, anyone?

My guess is if anyone from Richmond gets the call to come up to the big club, it's him.

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McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 10:38 PM
That's an ugly table... lol

Hodges has pitched well though

MSU Bulldog
04-26-2007, 10:41 PM
That's an ugly table... lol

Hodges has pitched well though

Yeah, really bad, sorry. :)

I have been interested in his performance since he was reacquired.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:00 PM
I know Lerew was a high rated prospect but I don't know much about him, what type of pitcher is he?

vnodnarb
04-26-2007, 11:04 PM
kevin barry is always an option too

MSU Bulldog
04-26-2007, 11:05 PM
Thanks for the chart edit McCarroll!

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 11:05 PM
Lerew throws in the upper 90s. 96, 97 with ease. He's got the skills, he just needs the mindset and his mechanics to be there for him to be successful. Unfortunately, each time he's gotten a chance, those haven't been there for him so we haven't gotten to see much more about him.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Do you think the problem with Lerew is that he is a starter and when he has come to the MLB he is used in relief?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 11:20 PM
I think the problem with Lerew is he's a reliever who is being used as a starter.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:25 PM
I think the problem with Lerew is he's a reliever who is being used as a starter.

that maybe true, let me ask you this McCarroll from what I have read he is kinda of like Jorge Sosa, he throws very hard and walks many batters and when he is affective he is still wild but able to get out of innings but the problem becomes when he is unable to get out of innings. So his success is kind of like 05 Sosa when his failures are similar to 06 Sosa.

vnodnarb
04-26-2007, 11:30 PM
that maybe true, let me ask you this McCarroll from what I have read he is kinda of like Jorge Sosa, he throws very hard and walks many batters and when he is affective he is still wild but able to get out of innings but the problem becomes when he is unable to get out of innings. So his success is kind of like 05 Sosa when his failures are similar to 06 Sosa.

and the question is?

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:33 PM
and the question is?

Is a comparison to Jorge Sosa (except that Lerew is a lefty) fair?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 11:40 PM
Few things... Lerew isn't a lefty.
Not a good comparison at all.
Sosa in 2005 had a 1.39 WHIP, 4.30 BB/9 and 5.71 K/9. Lerew's career minor league numbers show 1.25 WHIP, 3.04 BB/9, and 7.73 K/9. Obviously there is a different in talent levels, but he's not Jorge Sosa II. He's got better control than that.

He just hasn't had his mechanics in order every time we've seen him, whether that be in Spring Training a year ago or the spot start in Philly he made last year.

He's going to have to blow everyone away this year to get another shot though, I think. He's got guys catching him on the ladder when he has stalled out for a while. Hopefully, if he gets another shot, he'll have his mechanics going right so he'll be able to show us that he can be valuable for us. I think his calling is in the 7th/8th inning though, not starting.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:42 PM
so McCarroll if the Braves have to go to the minors for a starter, who gets the call?

McCarroll21
04-26-2007, 11:43 PM
Good question. I think if anyone knew, it would have happened already.

lavell12
04-26-2007, 11:46 PM
my guess it will be Hodges b/c when it comes to pitching Bobby likes to call up guys he has used in the past.

C-Dawg
04-27-2007, 12:25 AM
so McCarroll if the Braves have to go to the minors for a starter, who gets the call?

I've been hearing good things about this Jason Schiell character.

Chief Knockahoma
04-27-2007, 12:35 AM
I've been hearing good things about this Jason Schiell character.

:lol:

uh oh...excuse me...

:throwup:

much better...now where was i? oh yes!

:lol:

:D

McCarroll21
04-27-2007, 12:35 AM
I've been hearing good things about this Jason Schiell character.
Shiell and don't say that too loud. Someone might believe you.

Although he does actually have a 2.92 ERA in AAA for the Royals.

dogmanx23
04-27-2007, 12:45 AM
man i dont want us to trade anyone right now. Salty, Yunel, Prado, Blanco, Jones, Lillibridge those guys are going to be part of our Future with Chipper gettin older, Andruw gone next season (probably), Renteria gone in 2 seasons

we need to keep these guys for the future as for pitching bring up one of the kids and see what they can do...

lavell12
04-27-2007, 12:47 AM
But we are a team primed to win right now but need to get atleast one more starting pitcher.

JCStone7
04-27-2007, 01:58 AM
But we are a team primed to win right now but need to get atleast one more starting pitcher.

:bow: I agree whole-heartedly

BravePiKapp
04-27-2007, 02:01 AM
With the way their pitching right now? No. I don't think they'll keep being this bad though. It's not time to panic, and the answer certainly isn't calling up Harrison so he can take a beating too.

If I knew they were this bad and would keep pitching this poorly, I would be sending them out of town too. They aren't THIS bad though. We don't need much out of them, just consistency and keeping us in games.

We're going to have to wait another turn or two because 1) JS won't hit the panic button yet, and 2) there isn't any where we can go even if he did.

I think JS hit the panic button too late last year when trying to save our bullpen. I hope our 4-5 turn it around soon, if not I hope JS doesnt wait too long like last year.

BravePiKapp
04-27-2007, 02:02 AM
oh, and I would love to see Salty come up and play 1B.

lavell12
04-27-2007, 03:20 AM
My position is: Salty 1B Thorman/Diaz LF

grafe
04-27-2007, 03:31 AM
I've always kind of wanted McCann to move to first, he's a decent defensive player but his bat is so incredible that it sucks to keep it out of the lineup 20-30 times a year

McCarroll21
04-27-2007, 03:57 AM
You'd say the same about Salty. They're both special, I just hope Salty gets to be special here.

lavell12
04-27-2007, 04:27 AM
agreed, I just want him to move to first base.

grafe
04-27-2007, 06:16 AM
You'd say the same about Salty. They're both special, I just hope Salty gets to be special here.
haha I probably would, but yeah I'd much rather have Salty here

lmartin6
04-27-2007, 08:12 AM
I really don't wanna lose Salty. If anything, put him at first, but with his arm, as long as he can cover at least as much ground as Diaz (which I'm gonna safely assume he can) I say give him a shot in LF.

C-Dawg
04-27-2007, 08:33 AM
I really don't wanna lose Salty. If anything, put him at first, but with his arm, as long as he can cover at least as much ground as Diaz (which I'm gonna safely assume he can) I say give him a shot in LF.

It's a tough call because you can NEVER have enough young pitching, but on the other hand we're about as thin as we can afford to go on offense--especially since we will be losing AJ next year. And JS has shown in the past that when the offense gets down to such a disturbingly low level, he will begin to sacrifice pitching to bring it back up (see J.D. Drew trade).

McCarroll21
04-27-2007, 02:35 PM
I really don't wanna lose Salty. If anything, put him at first, but with his arm, as long as he can cover at least as much ground as Diaz (which I'm gonna safely assume he can) I say give him a shot in LF.
Truth be told, I'd call Salty up right now and put him at 1B. He's played it a little in his career so it'd be an easier adjustment for him. I'd put Thorman in LF and use that as my every day lineup.

Diaz on the bench but getting more at bats than the "normal bench player." He could play LF and Thorman either get a day off or shift to 1B and give Salty one. Salty could always catch in a pinch, and you know how much Bobby loves guys with that ability.

Then, because from what I've read about him, he's a better athlete than Thorman, I'd make the switch for him to go to LF next off-season if we're committed to Thorman. If not, keep Salty at 1B and have B. Jones and Lillibridge patrolling the OF next year.

Just my two cents, and it really doesn't matter right now, and it's probably good I'm not the GM.

lmartin6
04-27-2007, 02:58 PM
Truth be told, I'd call Salty up right now and put him at 1B. He's played it a little in his career so it'd be an easier adjustment for him. I'd put Thorman in LF and use that as my every day lineup.

Diaz on the bench but getting more at bats than the "normal bench player." He could play LF and Thorman either get a day off or shift to 1B and give Salty one. Salty could always catch in a pinch, and you know how much Bobby loves guys with that ability.

Then, because from what I've read about him, he's a better athlete than Thorman, I'd make the switch for him to go to LF next off-season if we're committed to Thorman. If not, keep Salty at 1B and have B. Jones and Lillibridge patrolling the OF next year.

Just my two cents, and it really doesn't matter right now, and it's probably good I'm not the GM.

Wow, that's ingenious. Are we sure that YOU aren't the one next in line to take over for Bobby? I'm absolutely in love the idea you just shared. Many kudos to you my man

lavell12
04-27-2007, 03:37 PM
Truth be told, I'd call Salty up right now and put him at 1B. He's played it a little in his career so it'd be an easier adjustment for him. I'd put Thorman in LF and use that as my every day lineup.

Diaz on the bench but getting more at bats than the "normal bench player." He could play LF and Thorman either get a day off or shift to 1B and give Salty one. Salty could always catch in a pinch, and you know how much Bobby loves guys with that ability.

Then, because from what I've read about him, he's a better athlete than Thorman, I'd make the switch for him to go to LF next off-season if we're committed to Thorman. If not, keep Salty at 1B and have B. Jones and Lillibridge patrolling the OF next year.

Just my two cents, and it really doesn't matter right now, and it's probably good I'm not the GM.

I wonder where you got the idea of Salty at 1B and Thorman in LF?

McCarroll21
04-27-2007, 03:58 PM
It's common sense that Salty can't just be handed a glove and expected to play LF. Thorman has done it before. I know you've said it, but it's not stealing your idea, it's just the only logical way to have them both in the lineup at this time.

lavell12
04-27-2007, 06:57 PM
yep, but we know it won't happen b/c Langerhans is loved by BC.

DanielW4444
04-27-2007, 11:59 PM
I want Salty to be a Brave. We'll have tons of food related fan groups.

Science Fiction Twin
04-28-2007, 01:26 AM
Nevermind... :)

dogmanx23
04-30-2007, 12:23 PM
i wanna see Salty in a braves uni this season... Id love to see him play first and thorman in LF. But if we were to trade him and since the tigers want him soooooooo badly. Id ask for Andruw Miller and Zumaya for Salty and a minor league pitcher (YEAH DREAM ON) im just saying a deal like that is hard to say no.

BravePiKapp
04-30-2007, 12:48 PM
I want Salty to be a Brave. We'll have tons of food related fan groups.

That would be awesome. I would. Maybe a Saltine Cracker?

McCarroll21
04-30-2007, 03:09 PM
Salty for Zumaya, Miller and a minor leaguer? Yeah right. They wouldn't give up Zumaya OR Miller for Salty alone, never mind trying to get them both and another guy.

Chief Knockahoma
04-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Id ask for Andruw Miller and Zumaya for Salty and a minor league pitcher

Salty for Zumaya, Miller and a minor leaguer? Yeah right. They wouldn't give up Zumaya OR Miller for Salty alone, never mind trying to get them both and another guy.

not the same thing.

vnodnarb
04-30-2007, 03:20 PM
not the same thing.

your right, but i dont think it matters, the tigers still wouldnt do that

David_Strate
04-30-2007, 03:24 PM
Zumaya - the modern day Wohlers - I'll take it! :)

Chief Knockahoma
04-30-2007, 03:25 PM
your right, but i dont think it matters, the tigers still wouldnt do that

i agree...i'd rather keep Salty in the organization anyways.

McCarroll21
04-30-2007, 03:40 PM
not the same thing.
Yes, okay. I misread, still not happening though. :D

braveslover02
05-02-2007, 04:48 AM
so he's one of the 4A players
NO,Lerew is a starter,not a reliever,and they should have always started him.

HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN
05-02-2007, 12:19 PM
maybe Lerew should be a starter, but His best bath to ATL is as a reliever and he's def got the stuff to be late inning reliever....

dogmanx23
05-02-2007, 12:36 PM
man it sucks that Hampton, Cormier , got hurt and Davies and Redman cant seem to throw a strike..

This kid Harrison seems to be pretty good and bobby even said during spring training that if needed he could start asap so i think he should be called up and have a look at. If anything Villereal or Mcbride can start for now i guess. As for Lerew i remember this kid pitching bad for us i dunno how hes doing in AAA but if hes worth a try might as well let him pitch.

We are going to be neck in neck with the mets all season long we cant afford to have a ? in our pithching rotation. especially 2 of them.