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Chopaholic
02-25-2007, 09:43 AM
http://umpbump.com/press/soriano-is-all-business-you-got-a-problem-with-that/
Some times I think the media reads into things like this, but somehow I believe this one.
KB 34
02-25-2007, 11:29 AM
If Soriano becomes John Rocker II minus any interviews with SI I'll be very pleased.
Me 2. And no interviews with ESPN, either.
Adam's Army
02-25-2007, 11:38 AM
Over the years the Braves have done a very good job with getting quality charchter guys on the team. the one big exception is Rocker. usually when we have someone on our team who isnt much of a team guy, they tend not to be here long. Tim Spooneybarger comes to mind. anyways, while we usualy get quality guys, i guess everyone on the team cant be a good guy. evry team needs a jackass i suppose
JayDonnelly10
02-25-2007, 11:39 AM
I love the TO reference.....
Hobbes
02-25-2007, 11:42 AM
There is nothing in that story to indicate that Soriano is a jackass, or that Bobby thinks he is. Sounds like Soriano is a serious guy who is confident in his abilities. Plenty of players are without being jackasses.
By the way, the only intervies I want to see Soriano giving is when he is asked what it's like to win the World Series during his first year in Atlanta.
:knock on wood:
Adam's Army
02-25-2007, 11:42 AM
true. im just saying every team has got to have at least one
Nasadega
02-25-2007, 12:06 PM
So because Soriano doesn't open his mouth and only cares about making hitter cry when having to face him, he's a jackass ? He just wants to play the damn game, not to talk to the journalists and chat with DOB about who's the better bassist in the world. Even reading through the lines, I can't see Soriano as a trash talking or clubhouse cancer guy... Heck he could even eat kittens ( :D )for breakfast, I don't care if he gets us a WS ring!
Wait, you don't care if he gets us a WS ring?
:eek:
Hobbes
02-25-2007, 12:21 PM
Wait, you don't care if he gets us a WS ring?
:eek:
Nasadega doesn't care if gets us a ring, as long as he eats kittens. :p
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 12:22 PM
I'm kind of 50/50 on this. He doesn't have the best attitude, but like Nas said he could eat kittens for breakfest and i'd be fine with that if he helps get us to the WS.
Just cause he's not a people's person doesn't mean he's a prick, or a jackass. I don't think he will be a problem in the clubhouse. If he is bobby could easily change that. He would just rather strike out people than talk with a reporter. He has a way different attitude than Gonzalez, but does anyone really care?
I'm not a big fan of this article, because it makes a huge deal out of nothing.
Here the full AJC article...like it a lot better.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2007/02/23/soriano_a_pitch.html
:lol:
Great comeback, Hobbes.
Of course, you've always had that ability with Calvin.
Chopaholic
02-25-2007, 02:07 PM
THe AJC article is a bad link. I looked for it also.
AJC (as a whole) is down right now. Anybody else have that problem?
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
The link works for me, but...
Editing out the article: http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2007/02/23/soriano_a_pitch.html - this link worked for me.
I understand why you posted it, no harm done, but the above link should be working for everyone now.
-- McCarroll21
Chopaholic
02-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Thanks.
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 02:20 PM
No Problem
lavell12
02-25-2007, 04:18 PM
Ya I like this, we have had some guys who had their best years with Atlanta that have some attitude problems like Sheffield and JD Drew.
McCarroll21
02-25-2007, 04:47 PM
There is nothing in that story to indicate that Soriano is a jackass, or that Bobby thinks he is. Sounds like Soriano is a serious guy who is confident in his abilities. Plenty of players are without being jackasses.
Exactly what I was thinking. This wasn't meant to be a factual article, you can tell by the TO reference. So he doesn't have the fun loving attitude of Jeff Francoeur, so what? He gets people out, he doesn't cause problems with anyone else. Until his "cockiness" (which I tend to think would be a good thing in Atlanta) effects the performance of others in a negative way, who gives a damn?
hotcorner33
02-25-2007, 05:05 PM
Chipper with earrings would rock.
BGarrett7
02-25-2007, 05:53 PM
Over the years the Braves have done a very good job with getting quality charchter guys on the team.David Justice... Otis Nixon... Deion Sanders... Kenny Lofton... Bobby Bonilla... Ken Caminiti... Bernard Gilkey... Gary Sheffield...
McCarroll21
02-25-2007, 05:55 PM
David Justice... Otis Nixon... Deion Sanders... Kenny Lofton... Bobby Bonilla... Ken Caminiti... Bernard Gilkey... Gary Sheffield...
You could quite possibly add Rafael Furcal, Chipper and Andruw Jones to that list, as well.
And their leader isn't exempt from all character issues.
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 05:56 PM
Why Chipper?
BGarrett7
02-25-2007, 05:57 PM
Why Chipper?I don't exactly see someone who knocks up a Hooters waitress while married as being of the utmost quality.
BGarrett, why wasn't Rocker on your list, perchance? He had a little character issue, if I remember right.
:D
BGarrett7
02-25-2007, 06:02 PM
BGarrett, why wasn't Rocker on your list, perchance? He had a little character issue, if I remember right.
:DHe was already mentioned in the post I quoted.
gilley22
02-25-2007, 06:46 PM
Just add everybody to the list if we're talking about people who have made mistakes in their personal life at some point. This is about guys who are risks to cause problems in the clubhouse, not guys who have done something wrong before.
BGarrett7
02-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Just add everybody to the list if we're talking about people who have made mistakes in their personal life at some point. This is about guys who are risks to cause problems in the clubhouse, not guys who have done something wrong before.Depending on who the players on the team are, I firmly believe that any type of character issue could translate directly into a clubhouse problem.
McCarroll21
02-25-2007, 07:00 PM
Just add everybody to the list if we're talking about people who have made mistakes in their personal life at some point. This is about guys who are risks to cause problems in the clubhouse, not guys who have done something wrong before.
Actually it was about a player's character. Character extends beyond the clubhouse. I agree that everyone has made mistakes, but some mistakes aren't viewed as strikes on character.
With all that said, and to get this back on the topic of Soriano, I don't think Soriano's "cocky" or would rather be pitching than talking to you about, what I would assume are the hot topics for Soriano right now, 1) VISA problems and 2) getting hit in the head with a line drive. I'm sure he's beaten them to death over the last little bit. Anytime you are forced to answer a question over and over again, you're going to get irritable to the question ... it's human nature.
Soriano's cockiness doesn't exactly make him a prick, as this article says (I know the article is done in fun). It's just part of who he is, and judging from the numbers he has posted throughout his career, I wouldn't want him changing who he is.
BGarrett7
02-25-2007, 07:09 PM
Oh, and after reading that article, I would just like to state how effin stupid it actually is. There isn't a single ounce of good journalism contained in it. Hell, the majority of the stuff written isn't even accurate. Putting words into someone's mouth (Bobby's) probably isn't the best way to be getting press passes.
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 07:29 PM
Oh, and after reading that article, I would just like to state how effin stupid it actually is. There isn't a single ounce of good journalism contained in it. Hell, the majority of the stuff written isn't even accurate. Putting words into someone's mouth (Bobby's) probably isn't the best way to be getting press passes.
That's what i was thinking...Bobby says he a little cocky, and the article says that Bobby thinks he's a prick...stupid article.
Scalpel19
02-25-2007, 10:47 PM
I've been down here since Thursday and got to see Soriano throw a bit in person and all I can say is WOW...That guy throws harder than I ever imagined...Being a Braves fan I've always thought we could win the World Series, but this year if we stay healthy...The Bullpen may take us the whole way
jschafer24
02-25-2007, 11:10 PM
I've been down here since Thursday and got to see Soriano throw a bit in person and all I can say is WOW...That guy throws harder than I ever imagined...Being a Braves fan I've always thought we could win the World Series, but this year if we stay healthy...The Bullpen may take us the whole way
Sweet, what was the mph for Soriano-if you know...any other people impress you.
C-Dawg
02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Oh, and after reading that article, I would just like to state how effin stupid it actually is. There isn't a single ounce of good journalism contained in it. Hell, the majority of the stuff written isn't even accurate. Putting words into someone's mouth (Bobby's) probably isn't the best way to be getting press passes.
Looking at your pic of Lillibridge, and the few others I could find on the net, does anyone else see a striking resemblance to Craig Biggio (facially)?
vnodnarb
02-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Looking at your pic of Lillibridge, and the few others I could find on the net, does anyone else see a striking resemblance to Craig Biggio (facially)?
yes, a bit as long as the pic of biggio is from 1982
Scalpel19
02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
aJones25, the fastest MPH from Soriano that I saw was about 99 MPH... And with the movement of his other pitches there might not be a better reliever on our roster...
There were several other players that impressed me and I've been planning on giving a report on what I saw later on this evening
Hobbes
02-26-2007, 04:33 PM
aJones25, the fastest MPH from Soriano that I saw was about 99 MPH... And with the movement of his other pitches there might not be a better reliever on our roster...
There were several other players that impressed me and I've been planning on giving a report on what I saw later on this evening
I've been saying all along that Soriano was the bigger pickup even over Gonzalez. I really think this kid has a big future as a closer.
Glad to see his velocity seems to be back after those winter league reports.
jschafer24
02-26-2007, 04:34 PM
aJones25, the fastest MPH from Soriano that I saw was about 99 MPH... And with the movement of his other pitches there might not be a better reliever on our roster...
There were several other players that impressed me and I've been planning on giving a report on what I saw later on this evening
Damn thats fast...can't wait to see him pitch...Really looking forward to the report later:) .
jschafer24
02-26-2007, 04:35 PM
I've been saying all along that Soriano was the bigger pickup even over Gonzalez. I really think this kid has a big future as a closer.
Glad to see his velocity seems to be back after those winter league reports.
Yeah, i think he'll be back to normal
McCarroll21
02-26-2007, 05:36 PM
I've been saying all along that Soriano was the bigger pickup even over Gonzalez. I really think this kid has a big future as a closer.
Glad to see his velocity seems to be back after those winter league reports.
I don't know which one is more important, I would be happy with one or the other, but I do know with both of them we have one hell of a one-two punch for the future. And if Boyer, Devine and McBride all pitch to their ability level ... wow (no words for the greatness of that pen).
Hobbes
02-26-2007, 05:41 PM
I don't know which one is more important, I would be happy with one or the other, but I do know with both of them we have one hell of a one-two punch for the future. And if Boyer, Devine and McBride all pitch to their ability level ... wow (no words for the greatness of that pen).
And if so...
Best. Pen. Ever.
CoreyG01
02-26-2007, 06:01 PM
I'll second that Hobbes...the pen could be amazing...
HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN
02-26-2007, 06:04 PM
The way I see it....
If healthy Boyer is atleast good enough to be a younger version of Bob Wickman
Devine should def be better than Yates
Startup should be able to step in as the the 2nd LH...or Lerew could be able to step in as another RH reliver if needed possibly...
good to have some depth...
TheMatrix31
02-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Wow....BG with a BERNARD GILKEY reference. I seriously don't think I've heard that guy's name in 7 years.
As far as the article, it's a bunch of BS. So the guy is quiet, so what? Not everyone can be the "Rah-Rah" type.
lmartin6
02-26-2007, 10:05 PM
So I FINALLY went back and read the article for the first time, and that was by far the least credible piece ever written. It's a simple blog, nothing else. It's awesome how someone with no skill, talent or credibility tries to turn a comment into something it totally isn't just to get people to react. Personally, I'm all for a guy who doesn't give a crap about anything other than chewing and striking people out. Don't really care if he chews or not, but shouldn't getting people out be every pitchers main concern?
thegame10
02-27-2007, 12:02 AM
So I FINALLY went back and read the article for the first time, and that was by far the least credible piece ever written. It's a simple blog, nothing else. It's awesome how someone with no skill, talent or credibility tries to turn a comment into something it totally isn't just to get people to react. Personally, I'm all for a guy who doesn't give a crap about anything other than chewing and striking people out. Don't really care if he chews or not, but shouldn't getting people out be every pitchers main concern?
That was my impression of it as well...
SCanevit
02-27-2007, 02:41 AM
I read O'Brien's blogs everyday, including the one that was referenced in this article. Had the author looked, he would have realized that the blog were O'Brien's impressions.
O'Brien noted on Monday's blog that he saw Soriano joking with a few of the guys, but once he came out on the field Soriano was all business again. In other words, I prefer to read O'Brien's blog everyday and not take anything out of context, unlike the idiot who wrote the article.
And so what if this guy is beaming with confidence and may be "a little cocky"? He's a great reliever and the team will do well with him.
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