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jeckll
03-31-2009, 09:24 AM
ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=4029706)

Making room for Anderson somewhere in that OF?
bmitm76
03-31-2009, 09:50 AM
ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=4029706)

Making room for Anderson somewhere in that OF?

Sounds like it. Somebody who needs some power will pick him up. The guy hit five homers this spring.
timmy
03-31-2009, 09:56 AM
I have a feeling the Tigers are about to tear that team down. They'll keep Verlander and Granderson. But beyond those two I'm not sure any of their players are safe.
vnodnarb
03-31-2009, 10:01 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to trade him while eating some of his contract?
timmy
03-31-2009, 10:13 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to trade him while eating some of his contract?

I'm going to assume they explored that option. But who knows?
HTF
03-31-2009, 12:02 PM
Yeah you just don't release a guy like Sheffield without exploring the trade rout first, just because he has a popular name and might could get something for him. I wonder where he'll end up.
McCarroll21
03-31-2009, 01:25 PM
Hmm... well, he's sitting on 499 homeruns, so if a team wants to pump up a milestone homer, he's your man.

Someone will pick him up. He's too good of a hitter to be able to sit out there at league minimum, even at his advanced age.
ahobbie
03-31-2009, 01:39 PM
Hmm... well, he's sitting on 499 homeruns, so if a team wants to pump up a milestone homer, he's your man.

Someone will pick him up. He's too good of a hitter to be able to sit out there at league minimum, even at his advanced age.

There will be an AL team looking for an upgrade at the DH spot, especially when it can be done for 400,000.
timmy
03-31-2009, 01:44 PM
I think about half the teams in the AL could benefit from adding Gary Sheffield. Toronto comes to mind, but I think he could help the Indians or Angels too.
HTF
03-31-2009, 01:46 PM
I think about half the teams in the AL could benefit from adding Gary Sheffield. Toronto comes to mind, but I think he could help the Indians or Angels too. If only we didn't have Garret Anderson's salary and spot tying us down. I still think he could be a more than productive outfielder and would probably sign for cheap at a chance for a championship. Maybe that's just me but I think he'd fit well with us once again.
jeckll
03-31-2009, 01:52 PM
If only we didn't have Garret Anderson's salary and spot tying us down. I still think he could be a more than productive outfielder and would probably sign for cheap at a chance for a championship. Maybe that's just me but I think he'd fit well with us once again.

PECOTA:


Player PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS EqBRR AVG OBP SLG MLVr AVG OBP SLG EqA VORP Defense WARP
Garret Anderson 419 48 22 1 11 61 27 57 4 1 -1.4 .279 .326 .432 -.015 .279 .324 .445 .261 10.6 100-LF -2 1.3
Gary Sheffield 411 54 16 1 14 50 50 70 11 4 -0.7 .245 .341 .415 -.027 .245 .343 .428 .271 8.1 98-DH 1.0


Anderson is a more valuable player at LF than Sheffield is at DH. Put Sheffield at LF and he would be even less valuable. Not saying I like the GA signing but he's much better than Sheffield.
timmy
03-31-2009, 02:02 PM
I still think Sheffield bounces back and has a better year this year. The projection systems aren't going to support that theory, though. But that's just me.
HTF
03-31-2009, 02:05 PM
I still think Sheffield bounces back and has a better year this year. The projection systems aren't going to support that theory, though. But that's just me.

Wait a minute. Timmy actually going with instinct over projection? April Fools isn't until tomorrow.
timmy
03-31-2009, 02:11 PM
Wait a minute. Timmy actually going with instinct over projection? April Fools isn't until tomorrow.

I just think the math is going to miss out on the part where he was hurt a lot last year. And he's got a lot of mileage on him. He's still got the bat speed though, which means if he's right, he'll hit. I think he can bring a > .800 OPS to someone. Which at DH isn't anything spectacular but it can be useful.
broke
03-31-2009, 02:35 PM
Buster Olney just reported on Baseball Tonight that the Phillies are interested in Sheffield.

I hope he doesn't clear waivers.....I dont want him in the division.....unless he has a tomahawk on the front of his chest.
Chipper=God
03-31-2009, 02:41 PM
Well theres are right handed power hitter.. Get on it FW!!
lol
HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN
03-31-2009, 02:44 PM
He's better off in the AL, but he'd also be a nice piece for SF who needs to get as much pop in the lineup as possible...
McCarroll21
03-31-2009, 03:05 PM
Buster Olney just reported on Baseball Tonight that the Phillies are interested in Sheffield.

I hope he doesn't clear waivers.....I dont want him in the division.....unless he has a tomahawk on the front of his chest.
Where would the Phillies play him? Are they going to stick him on the bench and let him go insane on people? They can't bench Ibanez for him after the contract they gave him. They can't bench Werth or Victorino, either. I'd kinda like to see them sign him. That'd be the clubhouse trouble to break that team up.
timmy
03-31-2009, 03:07 PM
Say Sheffield no signs Sheff... Is he a HOF?
ahmed5456
03-31-2009, 03:17 PM
Buster Olney just reported on Baseball Tonight that the Phillies are interested in Sheffield.

I hope he doesn't clear waivers.....I dont want him in the division.....unless he has a tomahawk on the front of his chest.He wouldn't last in the OF. Although he still wants to play the OF, he has a better chance of signing with an AL Club, to DH.

I think the Tigers have already said that they plan on having JA in the OF, as a primary backup to Granderson.
vnodnarb
03-31-2009, 03:23 PM
I still don't understand why an AL team with a crappy DH wouldn't agree to pay 1M-2M of his salary and send them a bucket of balls.
BF91
03-31-2009, 03:26 PM
I want us to sign Sheffield. I know it won't happen, but the guy's one year removed from a 120 OPS+. And jeckll, I hate to tell you, but the posistional adjustment for DH is much higher than it is for LF/RF. Sheff would be the better LF, both for us and in general.

I'd give him a shot. Cut/trade G.Anderson and pick up Sheff. If he breaks down in the field, then we've still got BJones and Matty to throw out there. It'd be well worth the risk, especially if he reverts to his 2007 form.
Corvette
03-31-2009, 03:27 PM
I'm thinking Cincinnati will be interested.
ahmed5456
03-31-2009, 03:32 PM
I want us to sign Sheffield. I know it won't happen, but the guy's one year removed from a 120 OPS+. And jeckll, I hate to tell you, but the posistional adjustment for DH is much higher than it is for LF/RF. Sheff would be the better LF, both for us and in general.

I'd give him a shot. Cut/trade G.Anderson and pick up Sheff. If he breaks down in the field, then we've still got BJones and Matty to throw out there. It'd be well worth the risk, especially if he reverts to his 2007 form.I'd take BJones, over Garret Anderson and Sheffield. Sheffield isn't going to be as productive, I think, as BJones. I've never been a Sheffield fan myself. I only liked him when he was a Braves, for that short-stint.
vnodnarb
03-31-2009, 03:33 PM
I'd take BJones, over Garret Anderson and Sheffield. Sheffield isn't going to be as productive, I think, as BJones. I've never been a Sheffield fan myself. I only liked him when he was a Braves, for that short-stint.

Why do you think this?
timmy
03-31-2009, 03:34 PM
I must admit; I have a Gary Sheffield jersey somewhere around here. lol
vnodnarb
03-31-2009, 03:36 PM
I must admit; I have a Gary Sheffield jersey somewhere around here. lol

This gives me an idea for a new thread.
ahmed5456
03-31-2009, 03:40 PM
Why do you think this?I feel like he is going down hill. The power is still there, he had 19 HR's last season, in 418 AB's. But that .225 AVG, is a major turn off. His OBP was .326, and his OPS was .725, not good. His numbers aren't impressive, and probably won't increase.
broke
03-31-2009, 03:50 PM
Regular Season: Gary Sheffield as a Brave = Monster
Post Season: Gary Sheffield as a Brave = Choke Zilla

Hell.......if he cleared waivers and it came down to Braves or Phillies offering him the 400k to play.......I'd hope he would pick us. We gave him the chance to essentially clear his name coming out of LA.

Without debate........he is definately good enough to get picked up. We dont need him.....but to block the Phillies or anyone else in the division trying to get him is something we need to explore.
GrandMasterB
03-31-2009, 04:06 PM
I guess when you acquire a masher like Josh Anderson, you can afford to let Sheffield go.

I would say he'd be the perfect kind of player for Oakland, but they have enough DH types already. Some AL club will pick him up, though. I know there aren't a ton of other DH's out there that are that much better than him.
ahmed5456
03-31-2009, 04:08 PM
I guess when you acquire a masher like Josh Anderson, you can afford to let Sheffield go.

I would say he'd be the perfect kind of player for Oakland, but they have enough DH types already. Some AL club will pick him up, though. I know there aren't a ton of other DH's out there that are that much better than him.Most of his interest should come from the AL. Maybe a team like Minnesota or Chicago will hop in, and pick up a DH.
HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN
03-31-2009, 04:13 PM
no room on the White Sox....I'd say the Twins might be a good place for him...if nothing else he might be an effective platoon with Kubel...
ahmed5456
03-31-2009, 04:15 PM
no room on the White Sox....I'd say the Twins would be wise to give him a look...he might hurt someone hitting in the Metrodome 81 games though...The Twins are moving out of the Metrodome, to Target Field.
HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN
03-31-2009, 04:22 PM
in 2010...I doubt he'd be there past 09...
Stonewall
04-01-2009, 12:19 PM
I'm calling him going to the Orioles. I'm not sold on Pie in LF, Luke Scott isn't a great DH and Angelos always likes to make a splash. Huff has only had one real cleanup hitter-like season and that was last year.
broke
04-02-2009, 10:13 AM
At 1pm the flood gates will open. Rumored suitors are mainly Phillies and Reds. I saw that we were potential suitors as well but I doubt that.

If this is true one would have to assume that he would pick the Phillies due to the significantly greater potential of postseason play versus the reds.

Bottom line…..I wouldn’t mind having him back on the team (especially for 400k). The guy is still a capable threat in the lineup despite a bad year. I dont want him to sign with the Phillies tho.
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If we don’t get him I don’t really care. In my opinion, with the guys we have now, we are putting the best team on the field this year then we have in the last 5 years or so.
vnodnarb
04-02-2009, 10:22 AM
I think he bounces back too, I don't how he'd get the at bats with the Phillies, but I'd still rather not see him go there.
DoubleA_ron
04-02-2009, 03:53 PM
Lots of talk in the buckeye state that he might be headed to the Redlegs. Sounds like he and Dusty have a deep friendship, but I don't know if that will convince he that he shouldn't play every day.
ahmed5456
04-02-2009, 03:58 PM
If you really want to get technical about this, Sheffield's release was a result of Schafer winning the CF job. Schafer won the job, making Anderson trade bait, and of course he was traded to Detroit. Sheffield was probably released to make room for Josh Anderson. Sheffield might want to thank Schafer, for his release.
broke
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
word is he is a gonna be a Met.
jonsmoltz
04-03-2009, 07:51 PM
word is he is a gonna be a Met.

It's official now

The Mets and Sheffield agreed to terms on a contract Friday afternoon, giving the club the type of power from the right side that it had been seeking for some time. Sheffield will play right field on what Manuel hopes will be a regular basis, potentially supplanting Ryan Church for the starting job.
Sheffield will report to Citi Field in time for the second of two exhibition games against the Red Sox on Saturday.

Link to story (http://tinyurl.com/crq7ho)
Chop33
04-03-2009, 08:14 PM
Haha good luck in NY Shef it worked out great for you the first time around.
Nasadega
04-04-2009, 06:17 AM
BN North hates the deal, so I guess it's a good one for us Braves fans :D
vnodnarb
04-04-2009, 08:58 AM
They hate everything.
Chief Knockahoma
04-04-2009, 09:06 AM
They hate everything.
so the BN North name is still fitting! :D
vnodnarb
04-04-2009, 09:10 AM
so the BN North name is still fitting! :D

Without a doubt.


The Mets could go with Murphy/Sheffield and Church/Tatis for two pretty strong corner outfield platoons and have Church as the backup CF-er.
vnodnarb
06-30-2009, 07:06 PM
So who wants to read about who was right on Sheff?
HTF
06-30-2009, 07:07 PM
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BF91
06-30-2009, 07:11 PM
I want us to sign Sheffield. I know it won't happen, but the guy's one year removed from a 120 OPS+. And jeckll, I hate to tell you, but the posistional adjustment for DH is much higher than it is for LF/RF. Sheff would be the better LF, both for us and in general.

I'd give him a shot. Cut/trade G.Anderson and pick up Sheff. If he breaks down in the field, then we've still got BJones and Matty to throw out there. It'd be well worth the risk, especially if he reverts to his 2007 form.

:wave: