June 1st: Braves (Hudson) at Reds (Cueto)

[McCarroll21]

Lineups:
Atlanta
Escobar, SS
Johnson, 2B
Jones, C, 3B
Teixeira, 1B
McCann, C
Francoeur, RF
Norton, LF
Blanco, CF
Hudson, P

Cincinnati
Hairston, SS
Bruce, CF
Griffey, RF
Phillips, B, 2B
Dunn, LF
Votto, 1B
Encarnacion, 3B
Bako, C
Cueto, P

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No fancy table as I'm surprised we're even up and running in some capacity to have a gamethread, anyway. Hopefully the move won't make it really hard on us.

[JCStone7]

Ugh Norton! I thought Anderson did okay from the 2 innings I saw yesterday.

[McCarroll21]

Yeah, well... Norton wasn't all that bad.

I can take him in left a little more often knowing we have a true outfielder to use as a defensive replacement. Kinda like Diaz vs. Langerhans back in 2006; Diaz sucked at playing LF but he hit his way into the lineup. Langerhans would take over in late innings though if we had a lead.

[jones2510]

Lets go braves!


:chop::bravesflag2:

[BravesfaninNC]

I am not sure where to post this.

According to Ken Rosenthal, the Braves called the Athletics about Joe Blanton but “did not come close to meeting Oakland’s price. http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand=foxsports&vid=875f5739-d851-4e6e-ad58-45b9a51fa864&playlist=&editor=&from=FOXSPORTS&fg=/mlb&rf=http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb

[BravesfaninNC]

hopefully we can win today 1 out 3 sure look better then getting sweep

[DRbravesfan29]

UGH!!..same lineup...Norton again???(although he did well yesterday)..why did they call up Anderson for???..anyways... GO BRAVES!!!!!!! :bravesflag2:

[jones2510]

Lets go yunel

[dogmanx23]

lets go braves!!!

[orangenation4]

why DID they call him up? has he started a game YET?

[orangenation4]

alright griffey.. hold off 600 til tomoro

[McCarroll21]

For those of you accessing the site on the IP address, the braves-nation.com domain has switched over to the new host.

We may go through some spells of lagging while the changes take effect, but I think by the time everything is switched, the site should be much faster than before.

[DRbravesfan29]

Cmon Offense!!!

[McCarroll21]

No one want to talk today? Where is every body?

[orangenation4]

eatin dinner.. anything happen in the second?

[dogmanx23]

this is going to be another painful day.

[elvanvitar]

eatin dinner.. anything happen in the second?

dunn hit a bomb

[McCarroll21]

Well... Dunn homered, but what's new? We're losing a one run game on the road. At least we're in our comfort zone.

[charpotsss]

anyone else having trouble with mlb gameday and mlbtv? i can't get either to work :(

[orangenation4]

ok.. i officially hate this ballpark and jay bruce

[dogmanx23]

oh lord... we have been this guys bitch all series.

[McCarroll21]

ugh! I kinda wish Griffey would hurry up and hit #600 so they could trade Griffey and move Bruce to RF.

[McCarroll21]

oh lord... we have been this guys bitch all series.
The majors have been his bitch since he arrived.

[orangenation4]

what are the chances of gettin griffey at the end of the season you think? i like the idea

[Tictac]

Yawn

[josephw000]

Hes tearing everyone up...just walk the effin kid

Lord we look horrible..I see a broom...we gotta play better on the road....2 one run losses here already

[josephw000]

what are the chances of gettin griffey at the end of the season you think? i like the idea

I'd put him in LF for us if we didint have to give up much, maybe B Jones and some money :)

[orangenation4]

gotcha bitch!! but no in all seriousness, huddys gotta settle down and keep the ball on the ground

[dogmanx23]

Blanco isn't a CF dammit start Anderson!

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

This guy missed nearly the 1st 2 months and now he's going to come up and steal his teammates ROY award...poor Votto(though I guess he won't mind if Jay keeps this up)

[McCarroll21]

what are the chances of gettin griffey at the end of the season you think? i like the idea
Chances are better at getting him before the end of the season and putting him in LF. He has to hit #600 first, though.

[josephw000]

I know no one wants to hear it but if Gregor puts his head down and sprints to the ball, ALA AJ he may have gotten that ball.....but whats done is done....I hate Phillips BTW......

[dogmanx23]

<<<<< pimp slaps the braves so they can wake the hell up!

[jones2510]

ugh come on braves

[elvanvitar]

what are the chances of gettin griffey at the end of the season you think? i like the idea

griffey isnt close to the player he was. he's basically been jeff franceour bad this year. im thinking age has caught up to him

[McCarroll21]

Blanco isn't a CF dammit start Anderson!
You think not? That's the only play he's had trouble on and it's not like it was an easy play, either.

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

ugh! I kinda wish Griffey would hurry up and hit #600 so they could trade Griffey and move Bruce to RF.


just wondering why it matters if he's in CF or RF? I haven't kept up with the Reds prospects lately...do they have someone clearly better in CF from a defensive stand point?

[josephw000]

Chances are better at getting him before the end of the season and putting him in LF. He has to hit #600 first, though.

I'd take him at the deadline if we didint have to give up much of our future, B Jones is all I'd really let go....He can still hit....and if he gets hurt were right where we were anyways.

[josephw000]

These Reds announcers are huge Homers....

[jones2510]

Lets go chipper

[orangenation4]

cueto's not lookin bad today

[orlandobrave]

This team has been such a drag to watch when on the road. I can't believe that this issue continues to persist. Now we're being no-hit by some guy with a 6+ era and the two guys I have the most confidence in (huddy and JJ) have been off. This road series can't end fast enough. The upcoming week is as crucial as it can be this time in the season.

[josephw000]

lol, the announcer goes... Goodnight! When Chipper swung and missed...What a jerk....

[McCarroll21]

Now we're being no-hit by some guy with a 6+ eraIf that's all Johnny Cueto is to you, you need to brush up on some of the finer prospects in baseball.

[elvanvitar]

the braves are a demoralized team at the moment.

[GrandMasterB]

Slow gamethread today. Maybe it'll pick up some when the Braves get a baserunner, eh?

[elvanvitar]

Slow gamethread today. Maybe it'll pick up some when the Braves get a baserunner, eh?

that might be awhile

[orangenation4]

Slow gamethread today. Maybe it'll pick up some when the Braves get a baserunner, eh?

IF the Braves get a baserunner

[McCarroll21]

just wondering why it matters if he's in CF or RF? I haven't kept up with the Reds prospects lately...do they have someone clearly better in CF from a defensive stand point?
He needs to be in RF. He's just not a CF, really. I read something the other day saying his future was in RF.

With Keppinger and Gonzalez getting close to being back, they could move Hairston back to CF and keep him in the leadoff role by shifting Bruce to RF. That would allow one of Keppinger and Gonzalez to play SS.

[jones2510]

Alright braves lets get some runs!!

[McCarroll21]

Slow gamethread today. Maybe it'll pick up some when the Braves get a baserunner, eh?
I blame the slow gamethread on me and the hosting change. Maybe that's not it, but I'm thinking that may be it.

[GrandMasterB]

that might be awhile

IF the Braves get a baserunner

Now, that's what I call confidence! :D

I'm gonna say McCann breaks up the no-hitter this inning.

[orlandobrave]

If that's all Johnny Cueto is to you, you need to brush up on some of the finer prospects in baseball.
Realize who he is, just frustrated with this team lately. Hopefully we'll get him when he loses a bit of his command.

[orangenation4]

im with you.. come on mac, we need runs

[josephw000]

Now, that's what I call confidence! :D

I'm gonna say McCann breaks up the no-hitter this inning.

mini slump..I dunnno....

[Yunel's Urinals]

talk about just bad luck
whats he got 1 strikeout??
were just spraying the ball but they're right at people

[jones2510]

Lets go brian jeff

[Yunel's Urinals]

whaddya know - another warning track out!

[orangenation4]

talk about just bad luck
whats he got 1 strikeout??
were just spraying the ball but they're right at people

thats pretty much this series, every time we get a bat on the ball its straight at somebody.. we just need to take a page out of their book and knock it out of the park every time

[GrandMasterB]

If Brian was fast, well, he still wouldn't have beaten that out. :(

[orangenation4]

i'll give this guy one thing.. hes changin speeds like no tomoro, hes goin from 65 to 92 and back to 70

[orangenation4]

no perfect game!! YEA!

[jones2510]

Lets go norton

[elvanvitar]

wow jeff breaks up the perfect game with a walk

[josephw000]

So off topic...but Universal Studios in on fire out here in L.A....The back to the future set was 100% destroyed clock tower and everything.....and a few sound stages along with the psycho house...its still burnin...Also the King Kong state was destroyed.

[josephw000]

We lead the NL in double plays....no effin shit?!

[GrandMasterB]

Well, they broke up the perfect game at least. Break up the perfect game in the fifth, no-hitter in the sixth and shutout in the seventh. Get it done, Braves!

[jones2510]

come on hudson

[GrandMasterB]

Jay Bruce stinks.

[jones2510]

dp please

[Southpaw]

I like the graphic on the Reds feed comparing Bruce to players like Rose and Bench based on their first 5 games.

[McCarroll21]

Hmm... Maybe we can get a double play to try to turn some momentum over to the sixth. Wishful thinking, I know.

[DRbravesfan29]

so this game stinks...

[josephw000]

if griff goes yard im outta here.....

[jschafer5]

This is gonna be a long game...

[McCarroll21]

We found Bruce's weakness! If you can't steal on McCann, you can't steal!

[jschafer5]

Nice Mac!

[GrandMasterB]

LOL at the crowd going nuts as soon as Griffey hit the ball.

[jones2510]

woot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blanco

[GrandMasterB]

Kind of a cheap way to break up the no-hitter, but it's good to see the leadoff guy get on.

[ATlinVA]

Website hasn't been working for me...
but now that I'm here... LETS DO THIS. Bunt single. Good start!

[McCarroll21]

Sorry for pulling the plug on you guys like that. Just figured a database backup may be needed to get us started ... or just testing out the new setup.

Way to go Gregor! Let's go Huddy; get him over!

[orlandobrave]

Maybe that'll get 'em started! woot Blanco!

[orlandobrave]

Effn Cube!!!!!! swinging at the first one again.

[jones2510]

lets go kelly

[McCarroll21]

Damn I hate when Yunel does that. I understand he's pretty good on the first pitch, but normally when you jump on the first pitch, you want to pick out something you can drive. He's just going up there swinging.

[josephw000]

if griff goes yard im outta here.....

The baseball gods want me to stay...

[McCarroll21]

Anyone think Yunel's struggles may have something to do with Pena being gone?

[josephw000]

Anyone think Yunel's struggles may have something to do with Pena being gone?

He was really sad wasnt he?

[ATlinVA]

Anyone think Yunel's struggles may have something to do with Pena being gone?
I was worried about that. He's a young kid. It could affect him. But, he has to be a professional and man up.

[josephw000]

Jeez man....

[GrandMasterB]

Well, they broke up the perfect game at least. Break up the perfect game in the fifth, no-hitter in the sixth and shutout in the seventh. Get it done, Braves!

Right on schedule!

[orlandobrave]

Anyone think Yunel's struggles may have something to do with Pena being gone?
I was concerned about that....... especially after reading an article that he just stared into his locker after he learned the news.

[elvanvitar]

Anyone think Yunel's struggles may have something to do with Pena being gone?

it has more to do with him coming down to earth imo. he has 5 extra in his last 39 games and his walk rate has dropped since the first 3 weeks of the season.

[vnodnarb]

So this is fun.

[jones2510]

lets go chipper hit a homer ugh lets go tex

[McCarroll21]

Get us on the board, Larry!

[josephw000]

it has more to do with him coming down to earth imo. he has 5 extra in his last 39 games and his walk rate has dropped since the first 3 weeks of the season.


ERRRR. Wrong answer IMO.

There is no coming down to earth, hes proved hes a big league hitter and can follow up last years performance with a solid one this year.

Contribute it to a slump. And get over it, they are all gonna go through it this year.

Esco is hitting the ball pretty hard.

He's being impatient though.

The kid can hit.

He should not be leading off though...Gregor, Esco, Chip, Teix, Mc, KJ French, Anderson

P.S Where the hell is Anderson?.....

[ATlinVA]

Runner on first, that would be a single

[elvanvitar]

another easy out. yay.

[jones2510]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woot! tex

[vnodnarb]

Woo! Tex!

[GrandMasterB]

Well, they broke up the perfect game at least. Break up the perfect game in the fifth, no-hitter in the sixth and shutout in the seventh. Get it done, Braves!Right on schedule!

Booyah!

[vnodnarb]

One step closer to a 1 run loss.

[ATlinVA]

Woot Teix...
boohoo Red's announcer "Boy, I thought that ball was foul (*pouty voice)"

[josephw000]

Wow...nice one Teix...

[McCarroll21]

Booyah!
How about you add taking the lead in the 8th?

We're in one-run loss territory now!

[josephw000]

Woot Teix...
boohoo Red's announcer "Boy, I thought that ball was foul (*pouty voice)"


lol, AWWWW pooo baby!

[GrandMasterB]

:wave:, Cueto. The offense has arrived.

[jones2510]

brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:chop:

[ATlinVA]

BACK TO BACK JACKS

[josephw000]

Helllllo Offense!

[vnodnarb]

What do you think about putting Jeff in the 2 spot for little awhile? I think putting him in front of Chipper could be perfect for him. Put KJ at 6 and Yunel at 7 and see what happens. Pitchers won't be as willing to throw as much junk to Jeff. Yunel could relax lower down in the order.

[GrandMasterB]

How about you add taking the lead in the 8th?

Hey now, let's not get too crazy.

[McCarroll21]

Griffey's cool.

[DRbravesfan29]

One step closer to a 1 run loss.

damn right you are...

[jones2510]

lets go jeff

[jones2510]

Keep it going braves

[elvanvitar]

ERRRR. Wrong answer IMO.

There is no coming down to earth, hes proved hes a big league hitter and can follow up last years performance with a solid one this year.


it has more to do with his walk rate and power. in the minors that was the major concern with him. his walk rate was good at times and he didnt have much power. and the concern was that if he was going to hit 310 (which is hard to do. and a persons average will fluctuate as well) his overall numbers would drop.

im not trying to say yunel isn't a big leaguer. he clearly is. but offensively he's likely a high 700 OPS guy with an average around 300. that's not bad by any means. but it's a lot different then the guy some have tried to pump him up to be.

[josephw000]

Ahh...according to the reds that was Brians 20th double of the season!

Good job Brian.

[McCarroll21]

Anyone else screaming, "get up! get up!" when that ball went on a line out to left?

[vnodnarb]

Somebody has lost it.

[ATlinVA]

Leave him in!
Take him out!
Leave him in!
Take him out!

[josephw000]

it has more to do with his walk rate and power. in the minors that was the major concern with him. his walk rate was good at times and he didnt have much power. and the concern was that if he was going to hit 310 (which is hard to do. and a persons average will fluctuate as well) his overall numbers would drop.

im not trying to say yunel isn't a big leaguer. he clearly is. but offensively he's likely a high 700 OPS guy with an average around 300. that's not bad by any means. but it's a lot different then the guy some have tried to pump him up to be.

He is hitting about .300.....

[jones2510]

lets go norton!!!

[josephw000]

You see Jeffs face? After he hit it his eyes got all big like Holy Shit!

[josephw000]

lets go norton!!!


Lord....

[elvanvitar]

What do you think about putting Jeff in the 2 spot for little awhile? I think putting him in front of Chipper could be perfect for him. Put KJ at 6 and Yunel at 7 and see what happens. Pitchers won't be as willing to throw as much junk to Jeff. Yunel could relax lower down in the order.

giving one of your worst hitters the most abs is not a good thing

[elvanvitar]

You see Jeffs face? After he hit it his eyes got all big like Holy Shit!

im sure he was surprised he hit it just like us

[josephw000]

giving one of your worst hitters the most abs is not a good thing

I dont like it either, I dont think it'll help him at all.

[ATlinVA]

I thought Norton took him deep there...

[dogmanx23]

right back in it! :)

[GrandMasterB]

Hit a bunt double!

[McCarroll21]

right back in it! :)
Just get ready for a one-run loss so you don't get disappointed later.

[orangenation4]

right back in it! :)

right back in another 1 run situation.. we need back to back homers again here

[josephw000]

Just get ready for a one-run loss so you don't get disappointed later.

I'm ready for it! But just in case...I'm gonna stick around...

[vnodnarb]

giving one of your worst hitters the most abs is not a good thing

He's really not a bad hitter, just a slow start, he's at least an average hitter. Putting someone in front of Chipper brings almost automatic success. (re: Marcus Giles, Yunel Escobar, Andruw Jones (2000 - hit .336 I believe)

[josephw000]

Dont swing for the fences Gregor...your not Furcal....

[elvanvitar]

Just get ready for a one-run loss so you don't get disappointed later.

pete just said what i was waiting to hear. if we lose this by 1 run. it will be the 21st 1 run loss in a row on the road. that would tie a major league record with the royals of 2000-2001. thats what we have become...

[McCarroll21]

Applaud your effort there for that one Eddy. Now you can boot the next one to ya!

[orangenation4]

in the words of brandon webb, "wow, that was a web gem"... well, almost

[elvanvitar]

He's really not a bad hitter, just a slow start, he's at least an average hitter. Putting someone in front of Chipper brings almost automatic success. (re: Marcus Giles, Yunel Escobar, Andruw Jones (2000 - hit .336 I believe)

for a right fielder he is a bad hitter. among the worst in baseball.

[vnodnarb]

Volquez and Cueto better enjoy their last couple years before waking up with a sore shoulder everyday.

[vnodnarb]

Why do they torment us like this? Just roll over and die, it's much easier.

[GrandMasterB]

Got two runs back. Hopefully, Huddy can get one more quick inning and get the offense back out there.

[McCarroll21]

for a right fielder he is a bad hitter. among the worst in baseball.
Just reading through your posts, Searcy really isn't that bad of a place, why are you so pissed all the time? I hate people like you who come on here and do nothing but bitch and make the rest of us who come on here for a good time have to read it.

I'm not expecting everyone to be all sunshine all the time, but most of us are just here for a good time, not constant bitching even when it's not warranted.

[josephw000]

Why do they torment us like this? Just roll over and die, it's much easier.

Hell no....your crazy.....

[PeytonAllen]

Here we go again. We're gonna do it this time. Good effort to get 2 back.

Even if we lose nice to see Teix heating up and everybody's punching bag start to look better at the plate. He's been more selective this trip and is driving the ball. The kid is due to go on a tear.

[jones2510]

great hudson is hurt

[GrandMasterB]

Uhh... we can't afford to lose Hudson.

[elvanvitar]

Just reading through your posts, Searcy really isn't that bad of a place, why are you so pissed all the time? I hate people like you who come on here and do nothing but bitch and make the rest of us who come on here for a good time have to read it.

I'm not expecting everyone to be all sunshine all the time, but most of us are just here for a good time, not constant bitching even when it's not warranted.

not pissed. just stating a fact. he is among the worst right fielders in baseball.

[McCarroll21]

Sweet! All we need is to take Huddy and Smoltz out of the rotation. Start working on the Bay/Snell trade ... now!

[josephw000]

great hudson is hurt


You gotta be shitting me!

[McCarroll21]

not pissed. just stating a fact. he is among the worst right fielders in baseball.
I'm not arguing with that. I'm talking about every post you've made today, what you've been waiting to hear from Pete, etc. If you're just here to bitch, go on down to Grandpa's BBQ and bitch to them.

[josephw000]

Sweet! All we need is to take Huddy and Smoltz out of the rotation. Start working on the Bay/Snell trade ... now!

Realllllllly......

[jones2510]

lets go ring get the dp

[DRbravesfan29]

Is this Hudson thing a joke...please be serious....

[vnodnarb]

not pissed. just stating a fact. he is among the worst right fielders in baseball.

So you can name 20 right fielders that are better?

[GrandMasterB]

Is this Hudson thing a joke...please be serious....

June Fools!

[dogmanx23]

so tomorrow we are suppose to get Smoltz back but now we probably lost Hudson i swear we can't get a break.

[elvanvitar]

I'm not arguing with that. I'm talking about every post you've made today, what you've been waiting to hear from Pete, etc. If you're just here to bitch, go on down to Grandpa's BBQ and bitch to them.

haha. grandpas bbq is good man. and i was just wanting to know what the record was for 1 run losses on the road. i figured we were getting close.

[GrandMasterB]

There. Now everyone quit your whining; Anderson's in the game.

[JCStone7]

Who was everyone bitching about?

[orangenation4]

theres old JA runnin to the outfield

[GrandMasterB]

Who was everyone bitching about?

Which time?

[josephw000]

There. Now everyone quit your whining; Anderson's in the game.

Wish he was there 8 innings ago.....Norton is not an everyday player anymore....

[elvanvitar]

So you can name 20 right fielders that are better?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2008&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=rf&startDate=null&endDate=null&minpa=0

of qualified right fielders he was tied for 20th out of 24

[JCStone7]

Which time?

I caught on the RF part, am I right in assuming Jeffrey?

[DRbravesfan29]

so tomorrow we are suppose to get Smoltz back but now we probably lost Hudson i swear we can't get a break.

i want details..what the heck happened to him??

[GrandMasterB]

Wish he was there 8 innings ago.....Norton is not an everyday player anymore....

He's not replacing Norton though.

[PeytonAllen]

Worst RF in baseball? Come on now. He almost hit .300 last year, knocked in 100, won a Gold Glove. Jeff's power was down, and he needs to learn to work the count. He walked more last year. To say, as McCarroll does that he's not the "natural" is one thing. To say he's horrible is another.

I think this rock bottom start may be good for him. He's working extra hard with Terry. He's trying.

[McCarroll21]

Hell, now he can't even throw the ball to first.

[jones2510]

come on braves

[vnodnarb]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2008&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=rf&startDate=null&endDate=null&minpa=0

of qualified right fielders he was tied for 20th out of 24

So I'm supposed to put weight into a list that has Vlad below Francoeur?

[GrandMasterB]

I caught on the RF part, am I right in assuming Jeffrey?

Probably. Jeff, Norton, Escobar, the usual.

[McCarroll21]

Who was everyone bitching about?
Just frustration about the team and one run losses boiling over.

[JCStone7]

Kick his ass B-Mac!

[vnodnarb]

Boyer just scared the shit out of Hairston.

[JCStone7]

Just frustration about the team and one run losses boiling over.

Nothing we can do, just sit back, watch, and hope!

[ATlinVA]

Kick his ass Seabass!

[dogmanx23]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

[GrandMasterB]

It's not a 1-run game anymore. :thumbsup:

[vnodnarb]

I'll give him credit, that was a hell of a bunt.

[ATlinVA]

Write that down. Next time we play the Reds, that bitch gets beaned

[McCarroll21]

Boyer's hurt too.

[josephw000]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2008&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=rf&startDate=null&endDate=null&minpa=0

of qualified right fielders he was tied for 20th out of 24

uhhh ok...

[vnodnarb]

Nothing we can do, just sit back, watch, and hope!

Boo! Be a true fan, get the rally cap on and start screaming at the TV.

[JCStone7]

Write that down. Next time we play the Reds, that bitch gets beaned

So April/May of 2009 anyone gonna remember?

[dogmanx23]

should have hit him just for the sake of hitting someone..

[mark]

I really hate Jay Bruce

[vnodnarb]

Has Bruce ever made an out?

[JCStone7]

Boo! Be a true fan, get the rally cap on and start screaming at the TV.

I usually am, but beer calms me down.

[ATlinVA]

So April/May of 2009 anyone gonna remember?
Didn't know we were done for the year.
Maybe in the playoffs. Jay Bruce is God.

[elvanvitar]

So I'm supposed to put weight into a list that has Vlad below Francoeur?

OPS is one of the best single stats to see how good a player is performing offensively. it isn't perfect but it's good enough. and vlad is having a bad year.

pretty simple it's like this. if your a corner outfielder and you don't have an OPS over 800. you are performing below average. and if its in the low 700's its awful.

[steltz02]

This is a mess.

[DRbravesfan29]

this just keeps getting better and better...

[JCStone7]

So Jay Bruce is the new "Natural" where's the SI article?

[ATlinVA]

Should've beaned Griffey. That would have made a statement haha

[JCStone7]

OPS is one of the best single stats to see how good a player is performing offensively. it isn't perfect but it's good enough. and vlad is having a bad year.

pretty simple it's like this. if your a corner outfielder and you don't have an OPS over 800. you are performing below average. and if its in the low 700's its awful.

And how do the Cards have 2 RF's?

[dogmanx23]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!

[orangenation4]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2008&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=rf&startDate=null&endDate=null&minpa=0

of qualified right fielders he was tied for 20th out of 24

in ops.. where this is a good stat its one of only 2 where he's ranked 20th or worse.. look also at doubles, rbi, most stats he's top 10 or 12 in the league

[ATlinVA]

Who the hell is this announcer? I recognize his voice
"No one likes to get beat. And right now if you're coming into Cincinnati, you're going to get your tail whooped."

[vnodnarb]

OPS is one of the best single stats to see how good a player is performing offensively. it isn't perfect but it's good enough. and vlad is having a bad year.

pretty simple it's like this. if your a corner outfielder and you don't have an OPS over 800. you are performing below average. and if its in the low 700's its awful.

Yes, I know, it's a great stat, but the sample size you're looking at is poor.

[JCStone7]

Who the hell is this announcer? I recognize his voice
"No one likes to get beat. And right now if you're coming into Cincinnati, you're going to get your tail whooped."

Jeff Brantley

[josephw000]

wtf...these announcers are idiots.....if the REds dugout is saying shit to Boyer why are WE the crybabies?

[elvanvitar]

So Jay Bruce is the new "Natural" where's the SI article?

its coming up after the josh hamilton one

[Snake Plissken]

Come on Braves we can still win this!!!!

Oh, we're on the road. k nevermind

[mark]

Who the hell is this announcer? I recognize his voice
"No one likes to get beat. And right now if you're coming into Cincinnati, you're going to get your tail whooped."

I was just gonna ask if anyone is watching the Reds feed, because is the announcer really talking trash?

[McCarroll21]

It's his ankle. He rolled it a long time ago. I think it was during the Bruce at-bat; the pitch before the hit.

[GrandMasterB]

Yeah, we don't need any pitchers anyway.

[josephw000]

Jeff Brantley

O wow....why is he there....

[PeytonAllen]

Is Buddy still with this team? I understand you bring in Boyer to 'hold' the Reds, but Bobby has a guy in the pen that hasn't pitched this year. Don't get it. He could save some of these guys.

[elvanvitar]

Yes, I know, it's a great stat, but the sample size you're looking at is poor.

jeffs career ops is 775. the last 3 years its been 742, 782, 723. he's been below average.

[ATlinVA]

Jeff Brantley
He's a douche. I'd rather listen to the idiots on FSN Wisconsin.

[JCStone7]

O wow....why is he there....

He's a former Red in the broadcasting field :thumbsup:

[josephw000]

Brantley needs to STFU...no ones worried about the Reds

[josephw000]

He's a former Red in the broadcasting field :thumbsup:

I know...just wondering why he still has a job.

[McCarroll21]

At least Huddy's injury, Yunel's error and Boyer's injury take the one-run loss out of the equation.

[JCStone7]

I know...just wondering why he still has a job.

Same reason that Joe Morgan does, nobody really knows?

[josephw000]

"When youcome outta last place and start making your way to first you are gonna make some people mad."

I doubt that's it Jeff......

[josephw000]

At least Huddy's injury, Yunel's error and Boyer's injury take the one-run loss out of the equation.

Unless we go back to back again.....

[orangenation4]

come on buddy.. in the strikezone

[jones2510]

well this sucks

[JCStone7]

...and the Braves are frustrated

[vnodnarb]

Why do they torment us like this? Just roll over and die, it's much easier.

This is what I'm talking about!

[McCarroll21]

I understand carrying 13 pitchers, but hell, you might as well let Norton pitch.

[josephw000]

WTF does Brantley know about Buddy......shut up...god this guys annoying. And he just creamed in his jeans cuz Dunn's coming up. "Oh Boy"

[elvanvitar]

lmao. carlyle is a joke.

[orangenation4]

i didnt realize how wide the track was in front of the backstop.. thats pretty deep back there

[josephw000]

Now we gotta do back to back to back to make it a one run game

[ATlinVA]

And John Smoltz rejoins the team, solidifying the bullpen and boosting team morale. The Braves go on to not lose another one-run game and win every series on the road. If you wish upon a star...

Go ahead and Slam this so I can turn it off.

[GrandMasterB]

I understand carrying 13 pitchers, but hell, you might as well let Norton pitch.

The way this game has gone, he'd pull a Jose Canseco and have to get Tommy John surgery.

[GrandMasterB]

WTF does Brantley know about Buddy......shut up...god this guys annoying. And he just creamed in his jeans cuz Dunn's coming up. "Oh Boy"

There's a real simple way to make it stop. Turn it off.

[vnodnarb]

The Reds do have a very talented roster.

[elvanvitar]

to be fair to carlyle. his wildness is likely due to not pitching in a few weeks.

[josephw000]

There's a real simple way to make it stop. Turn it off.

I cant watch a game without audio and I wanna see us smack some hits around this inning.

[JCStone7]

At least the Braves won't give up #600

[jones2510]

lets go anderson lets go yunel

[PeytonAllen]

June 1st, 2007.

Braves 8 over .500 and +4 on the road.

[orangenation4]

yet another loud, long out for atlanta today

[mark]

Man, I was hoping for the Braves to go 4-2, or at least 3-3 on this road trip. This is painful. This reminds me of a couple of years ago, around this time of the year, when the Braves had a great road trip with a couple of big wins, and then followed it up a dismal stretch of baseball. I think it was heading into the cursed June.

[ATlinVA]

I thought Freel would have dove for that.

[McCarroll21]

The Reds do have a very talented roster.
That they do. They'll go on a run in the next few years.

[elvanvitar]

hamstring strain for huddy. that sucks

[josephw000]

Good swing Josh.

[ATlinVA]

What the hell are you looking at...

[McCarroll21]

Hmm... Let's come back a little! Why not?

[DRbravesfan29]

Man, I was hoping for the Braves to go 4-2, or at least 3-3 on this road trip. This is painful. This reminds me of a couple of years ago, around this time of the year, when the Braves had a great road trip with a couple of big wins, and then followed it up a dismal stretch of baseball. I think it was heading into the cursed June.

Just be ready and close your eyes for the next 10 GAME ROAD TRIP!!!!!

[GrandMasterB]

Alright, Kelly! Get us one of those runs back, Chipper.

[jones2510]

lets go chipper hit a homer