Some updates on the injured (Glavine, Acosta, Hudson, Soriano)

[McCarroll21]

http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/05/05/brtrade_0506.html
Infante:

Infante began an injury-rehab assignment Monday at Class AAA Richmond, the final step in his recovery from a broken hand that occurred in winter ball.
Moylan:

Also Monday, the Braves moved relief pitcher Peter Moylan from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL. He will have season-ending "Tommy John" elbow surgery later this week.Infante played in quite a few extended spring games, wouldn't be surprised to see him come back Friday and join the team in Pittsburgh.

Moylan's was just a formality at this point. We all new it was coming, but now it's here.

[vnodnarb]

I suppose we should look at Moylan's injury like Gonzo's from last year in that it'll be like getting a top reliever at the trade deadline for free next season.

[McCarroll21]

Gonzo had surgery on May 31 last year. So if Moylan has his done within the week, he may be able to get back by the middle of April next year.

[lavell12]

about Gonzalez, is he going to make some rehab stints in the minors before he comes to Atlanta?

[McCarroll21]

about Gonzalez, is he going to make some rehab stints in the minors before he comes to Atlanta?
I would assume. He's been in extended spring training to get his spring training. I would assume he then stays with a minor league team throwing every other day for about a week (that's what B.J. Ryan did anyway) before coming up.

[lavell12]

i guess that should be soon since he has stated he wants to come back in the middle of the month. that Smoltz, Gonzalez, Soriano, and Acosta bullpen is going to be nice.

[vnodnarb]

i guess that should be soon since he has stated he wants to come back in the middle of the month. that Smoltz, Gonzalez, Soriano, and Acosta bullpen is going to be nice.

I'll be happy if we can get 3 of 4 at 100% effectiveness.

[BF91]

We all knew Pete was gonna need Tommy John, it just sucks to actually see it in writing. Nice to know we've got some of the guys coming back soon though.

[McCarroll21]

Infante went 2-for-4 with a run tonight. He played center field.

[Penguin]

Infante went 2-for-4 with a run tonight. He played center field.
i wonder why he played center
i can only assume it was one of two reasons: less stress on his injury (im not even sure what his injury is now that i think about it) or to keep getting our AAA infield ABs

[nickjones165]

just out of curiousity, what has happened to Hampton is he left his first rehab start, and what are the time tables on Smoltz, Gonzo, and Soriano?

[JCStone57]

just out of curiousity, what has happened to Hampton is he left his first rehab start, and what are the time tables on Smoltz, Gonzo, and Soriano?

Hampton is contemplating whether or not he still wants to pursue his career.

Gonzo - late May
Smoltz - mid-late May
Soriano - :confused:

[nickjones165]

Well, if we can hold together here for a little while, we soon will have a shut down bull pen. This will be good with a shaky rotation

[JCStone57]

Soriano isn't improving

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/05/06/bravesnot_0507.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21

[Chuck61686]

You can pencil Soriano in for a season-ending surgery.
Soriano not improving is a tell tale sign that a surgical intervention WILL be needed. If surgery truly wasn't necessary, the month of rest he's had would've easily done the job, but it hasn't.

[vnodnarb]

I'll be happy if we can get 3 of 4 at 100% effectiveness.

Okay switch that to 2/4.

[JCStone57]

You can pencil Soriano in for a season-ending surgery.
Soriano not improving is a tell tale sign that a surgical intervention WILL be needed. If surgery truly wasn't necessary, the month of rest he's had would've easily done the job, but it hasn't.

What happened to that blasting away of bone chips idea?

[DRbravesfan29]

Yikes:eek:....I guess we'll see the truth on Soriano tomorrow...Knife or NO knife..*gulp*

[GrandMasterB]

Yikes:eek:....I guess we'll see the truth on Soriano tomorrow...Knife or NO knife..*gulp*

Sounds like a cool name for a game show - Knife or No Knife. Anyone got Howie Mandel's number?

[colebert]

Soriano out for the season is gonna cost Adam Dunn at least 2 HRs in his contract year.

[McCarroll21]

Infante went 0-for-3 with walk tonight, again playing center field.

[nickjones165]

Soriano is being re-evaluated. Thats been such a good sign for our pitchers this season. Smoltz isn't improving either.

[Chuck61686]

What happened to that blasting away of bone chips idea?

That idea was for Peter Moylan.
And Dr. Andrews confirmed my theory in that he mentioned a 5% chance the bone chips could be removed without Tommy John surgery - unfortunately Tommy John surgery will need to be done.

[Moylan #58]

Who will probably be the primary pinch hitter, Norton or Infante?

[lavell12]

Who will probably be the primary pinch hitter, Norton or Infante?

It depends the circumstances, I think Pena is our best pinch hitter including those two, but Prado might be the best of all.

[Moylan #58]

It depends the circumstances, I think Pena is our best pinch hitter including those two, but Prado might be the best of all.
Yeah I think Prado is the best pinch hitter, but he may go back to Richmond when he comes off the DL, He still has options. Gotay was our primary PH, I don't think he is anymore.

[Chuck61686]

Soriano is being re-evaluated. Thats been such a good sign for our pitchers this season. Smoltz isn't improving either.

Such a good sign? I hope you're just kidding.

[DRbravesfan29]

Per DOB:

MRI and bone scan negative on Soriano, which, of course, is positive (meaning no tears, no stress fractures, etc).
He’ll resume throwing program with peace of mind, for him and organization. No timetable for return

Hopefully he gets better!!!

[Chuck61686]

Per DOB:

MRI and bone scan negative on Soriano, which, of course, is positive (meaning no tears, no stress fractures, etc).
He’ll resume throwing program with peace of mind, for him and organization. No timetable for return

Hopefully he gets better!!!

Phew...but was this a non-contrast or a contrast MRI? I hope they injected him with the contrast medium cuz if not, I wouldn't trust these results.

[JCStone57]

Phew...but was this a non-contrast or a contrast MRI? I hope they injected him with the contrast medium cuz if not, I wouldn't trust these results.

Do you honestly think the Braves' team doctors and the doctor who performed the MRI are not doing everything humanly possible?

[DRbravesfan29]

Infante 2-for-4 in tonight's game with a 2B and 3 RBIs playing CF...

[jones2510]

Just heard on sport south Infante getting called up tomorrow

[DRbravesfan29]

Just heard on sport south Infante getting called up tomorrow

Yep....Per DOB:

Infante recalled from Richmond, will be here for Thursday's game. Pena going on DL with mid-back strain, thought that part won't be official until tomorrow.

Yeah..um...he got a mid-back strain...sitting on the bench??? ummm, a bit strange...Glad Infante is coming up...a real SS backup..

[vnodnarb]

Yeah, his injury sounds like BS, but who cares. I'm surprised they never make up an injury for Thorman.

[milbraves]

Yep....Per DOB:

Pena going on DL with mid-back strain, thought that part won't be official until tomorrow.
..

He has a classic case of roster inflammation.

Infante looked great tonight. 2-4 with 3 RBI's of Richmond's 5 runs.

Also, Stockman was in good form tonight, another scoreless inning for the save.

[DRbravesfan29]

He has a classic case of roster inflammation.

Infante looked great tonight. 2-4 with 3 RBI's of Richmond's 5 runs.

Also, Stockman was in good form tonight, another scoreless inning for the save.

I just want to know....WHY in the name of God is Buddy Carlyle in the Major Leagues and the Aussie is mowing down AAA hitters and is stuck at Richmond...WHY????

[lilsnatch07]

Maybe they are trying to wait and make sure before bringing him up?

[SamtheBravesFan]

Maybe they are trying to wait and make sure before bringing him up?

But he's 28! His time is running out! Oh noes!! :eek:

[McCarroll21]

I just want to know....WHY in the name of God is Buddy Carlyle in the Major Leagues and the Aussie is mowing down AAA hitters and is stuck at Richmond...WHY????
What's Stockman going to do if he was here? Sit in the bullpen like Resop and Carlyle have been?

[Corvette]

I just want to know....WHY in the name of God is Buddy Carlyle in the Major Leagues and the Aussie is mowing down AAA hitters and is stuck at Richmond...WHY????
not to mention Chris Resop as well :confused:

[McCarroll21]

No worries guys. When Smoltz and Gonzalez get back, not to mention Soriano, we won't have to worry about Buddy Carlyle and Chris Resop in the pen anymore.

[vnodnarb]

Per DOB:

MRI and bone scan negative on Soriano, which, of course, is positive (meaning no tears, no stress fractures, etc).
He’ll resume throwing program with peace of mind, for him and organization. No timetable for return

Hopefully he gets better!!!

That's obviously good news, but it makes you wonder why he couldn't finish his bullpen session the other day.

[JCStone57]

That's obviously good news, but it makes you wonder why he couldn't finish his bullpen session the other day.

I think the MRI was more of a benefit for Soriano cuz he was obviously worried about his elbow. He still is battling tendinitis, so his elbow could just flare up at any time I guess.

[Chuck61686]

Do you honestly think the Braves' team doctors and the doctor who performed the MRI are not doing everything humanly possible?

I hope the results are valid, but in Mike Gonzalez's case last year, they didn't use the contrast medium until the 3rd MRI...and that's when they finally noticed he had structural damage to his UCL.

Just cuz they're the Braves doctors doesn't mean they're the best. I've seen PLENTY of doctors with decades of experience half-ass their work and give misdiagnoses that even I could've made.

[DRbravesfan29]

Per DOB:

Soriano, on his way into clubhouse, briefly paused and said his elbow was still a little sore but felt better than before. Threw 10 minutes in ‘pen…

Braves.com:


Soriano plans to throw another bullpen session on Tuesday and then possibly begin a Minor League assignment. The 28-year-old right-hander says that he'd like to make two appearances before being activated. With that timetable in mind, Soriano thinks it's possible that he could be back in the Atlanta bullpen early next week.

I guess that's good news, right....i hope they keep that timetable on track!

[lavell12]

so when are gonzo, rafael, and smoltz supposed to be back.

[McCarroll21]

so when are gonzo, rafael, and smoltz supposed to be back.
So, read the thread and realize no one knows. Mid-to-late May for all three seems to be the current guess.

I know that Mike suffered a setback, but that's normal with Tommy John patients. Ryan had a "setback" at the end of spring training and still came back around the time they expected. This setback is pretty much planned into the rehab. He's yet to join a team for an assignment, so it's at least a few weeks away on Gonzo.

[colebert]

Classic McCarroll: Laying the wood to n00bs and the lazy. :thumbsup:

[jackmcmanus21]

colebert...i love the rafael belliard avatar. Definitely looking forward to the return of these 3. Hope they come back with a bang and not too early

[vnodnarb]

I think Gonzo is better against righties in his career. I didn't look it up but I think that's what I remember from last year. The three lefties won't matter so much in the long run when they can all get outs. Ring is a specialist, but it'll allow Ring to be a one-out guy with Gonzo and Smoltz set up to pitch the 8th and 9th until Soriano gets back and then he gets mixed into that monster.

Ohman, Boyer in middle relief and Bennett doing his Mr. Everything stuff.

Smoltz
Gonzo
Soriano
Boyer
Ohman
Ring
Bennett

That's a good bullpen, folks.

Here's a random idea that came to me, when we get a couple of these guys back how about we go with a 8 man bullpen. Throw Acosta in with those 7, take a guy off the bench and send him to AAA. Our starting rotation is pretty much average and not a lot of innings eaters, so having the extra guy in the bullpen I think would be more beneficial than the last guy on the bench. Bobby could pull the starter earlier rather than sticking with them to just get through another inning even when their stuff has diminished. It would also help in the long run to not overuse guys.